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Old 03-27-2005, 12:00 PM   #1 of 14
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Favorite 8 Channel SDDS presentations?


Here in my area I don't know of any cinemas that feature SDDS in 8 channel mode?

Anyways I was reading on Sony's SDDS site about the films that have been released in 8 channel. To me it sounds really exciting and has me really looking forward to the next generation of home theater when you can have 8/8.1 channel sound.

The basic configuration I believe is upfront 1 center channel, 2 effects channels and 2 other channels while in the back 2 surround channels (or a possible matrixed back channel)? Well this seemingly would give a much more fullfilling experience than the 5.1 or 6.1 would.

I'm curious, is SDDS the only 8 channel theatrical presentation?

I'd like to know what some of your favorite 8 channel presentations are? What films, any particular passages in the films, what about it made it great?

The advantage is that whichever HIDEF disc format is chosen will be capable of reproducing these soundtracks!

Let's hear your thoughts?

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Old 03-27-2005, 07:29 PM   #2 of 14
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The SDDS eight-channel configuration is as follows:

5 across the front (Left, Left-of-Center, Center, Rigth-of-Center, Right)
2 across the back (left surround, right surround)
and a limited band subwoofer track.

Most SDDS theaters use the mix-down option that folds the two discreet off-center channels into phantom off-center channels.

I'm not entirely sure how many films have been made that even use the two extra channels.

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Old 03-27-2005, 08:10 PM   #3 of 14
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8 CHANNEL SDDS

Warner Independent Pictures Sep/04 Criminal
Columbia Pictures
Jun/04 Spider Man 2
Columbia Pictures Dec/03 Big Fish
Screen Gems Sep/03 Underworld
Columbia Pictures Jul/03 Bad Boys II
Warner Bros. Jul/03 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Sony Pictures Jun/03 Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle
20th Century Fox Nov/02 Solaris
Sony Pictures Jul/02 Stuart Little 2
Warner Bros. Jun/02 Scooby-Doo
Sony Pictures May/02 Spider-Man
DreamWorks S.K.G. Mar/02 The Time Machine
Sony Pictures Jan/02 Black Hawk Down
Warner Bros. Dec/01 Oceans 11
Warner Bros. Nov/01 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
20th Century Fox Sep/01 Glitter
Sony Pictures Jul/01 Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
Buena Vista May/01 Pearl Harbor
Sony Pictures May/01 A Knight's Tale
New Line Cinema Mar/01 15 Minutes
Miramax Dec/00 All The Pretty Horses
Sony Pictures Dec/00 Finding Forrester
Sony Pictures Dec/00 Vertical Limit
Sony Pictures Nov/00 The 6th Day
Sony Pictures Nov/00 Charlie's Angels
Sony Pictures Aug/00 Godzilla 2000
Sony Pictures Aug/00 Hollow Man
Warner Bros. Jun/00 The Perfect Storm
Universal Apr/00 U-571
Buena Vista Mar/00 High Fidelity
Universal Mar/00 Erin Brockovich
Columbia Pictures Jan/00 Girl Interrupted
Columbia Pictures Oct/99 Crazy in Alabama
Columbia Pictures Sep/99 Blue Streak
20th Century Fox May/99 Star Wars: Episode One, The Phantom Menace
TriStar Pictures/Phoenix Pictures Oct/98 Apt Pupil
Universal Jun/98 Out of Sight
Columbia Pictures/Mandalay Entertainment May/98 Les Miserables
TriStar Pictures May/98 Godzilla
Columbia Pictures Feb/98 Replacement Killers
TriStar Pictures Nov/97 Starship Troopers
TriStar Pictures/Mandalay Entertainment Oct/97 Seven Years In Tibet
Columbia Pictures Aug/97 Mastermind
Columbia Pictures Aug/97 Excess Baggage
Columbia Pictures Jul/97 Men In Black
Columbia Pictures/Beacon Communication Jul/97 Air Force One
Buena Vista Jun/97 Con Air
TriStar Pictures Jun/97 My Best Fr iend’s Wedding
Warner Bros. May/97 Addicted To Love
TriStar Pictures May/97 The Second Jungle Book: Mowgli & Baloo
Columbia Pictures May/97 The Fifth Element
Columbia Pictures Apr/97 Das Boot: The Director’s Cut
Columbia Pictures Apr/97 Anaconda
Columbia Pictures/Castle Rock Entertainment Jan/97 Ghosts Of Mississippi
Columbia Pictures Sep/96 Fly Away Home
TriStar Pictures Aug/96 Matilda
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Columbia Pictures Jul/96 Multiplicity
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Columbia Pictures Dec/95 Dracula-Dead And Loving It
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:16 AM   #4 of 14
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Sony never persued SDDS as a home surround mode,and it's unlikely it will this time.
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:21 AM   #5 of 14
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So far my favorite SDDS movies are Men In Black and Lost In Space.

Sphere was terrible, Revenge Of The Sith was very dissappointing on an SDDS EX equipped theater.

Revenge Of The Sith, I thought had a lousy mix. It was missing something, but the experience didn't even compare to the incredible experience I had in the past with Lost In Space on an SDDS mix.

Lost In Space is a bad movie, but the sound mix in SDDS is to die for! TO DIE FOR! The Hyperdrive sequence blasts every star trek movie into a pile of rubble. I never got to see Star Ship Troopers in SDDS.

I still think that are current releases are missing something in comparison to the older films, which even sound better with front imaging effects.

MIB and Lost In Space on a simple 5.1 track is LOUSY!

Does anyone disagree with me.

I think most of these pre-SDDS movies released in 5.1 suck very bad.

My point is 5.1 has still got a long way to go, because SDDS is still with us.

Batman Begins, GREAT MIX, SDDS was alive and kicking the way I remember it. (I love that scene when the cops are trying to describe a big black tank flying over roof tops.)

Now that you mention it, there are movies that do sound bad even on SDDS system. Perhaps Revenge Of The Other Sound Sith, was mixed for THX-EX Theater Set-up.

I think this is getting out of hand. Now consumers are NOT getting what they paid for, the sound, that the director had intended for us to hear, that breath-taking 3D effect that we still get from the older 5.1 mixes. And it's also from certain theater.

I beleive that there are movies that actually sound bad even on SDDS sound systems. Sphere, Lost In Space, Time Machine, Spiderman. Of course for some I did sit in different locations.

For now if I do go to an SDDS screening, I will sit on the 4th - 6th rear speakers facing directly behind my ears. The sounds start to lose detail when you get closer to the screen.

Tonight I am going to view batman just off to the side on 4th rear speaker. Sitting position shouldn't make a difference, I should still be able to hear that impressive sound, the same sound I had when watching certain SDDS movies in the past.

War Of The Worlds on a THX cinema 5.1 theater system was aweful.

War Of The Worlds in SDDS would have been just awesome!
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:08 AM   #6 of 14
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SDDS is just about finished as a theatrical format - Sony said they were dropping support of it in the near future.



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Old 08-11-2005, 12:56 PM   #7 of 14
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Looks like the next best experience will be dolby digital plus.

Has anyone noticed the difference in surround imaging, between an SDDS movie and the same movie played in Dolby Digital.

I think dolby digital plus will give the ultimate experience we've been hoping for.

What might be called DD 5.1

might be changed to DD+ 7.1

Star Ship Troopers in Dolby Digital + 13.1

Hows that for a home theater experience.

Dolby Digital Plus could move us closer to the SDDS experience. I think SDDS should drop out, the DVD selling empire has spoken. The real money about to be made is the next movie willing to poke it's head out enter the marketplace, the video stores. I'll tell you what if they release dark water in surround ex, I don't care how bad it is I'll buy it. Sometimes good sound can help the movie experience. Fear of the dark had some great sound as well bad-bad reviews though, but the sound also seem to help the experience to be more watchable. I didn't think it was too boring later on, when I saw those same black ugly things run out into the forest and torward the camera wicked scene I thought.
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Old 08-12-2005, 09:26 AM   #8 of 14
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"Air Force One" is some of the best sound panning I've heard. Jets flying across the front channels are amazing. The placement of gunshots was also excellent.

I know that the Esquire (St. Louis/Richmond Heights) main screen had the full 8 channel SDDS going during the 90's. I think they've let it slip since then and converting to DD-EX. The Esquire was the first theater in St. Louis to have SDDS; they pushed it big time when they used it for the first time with "Bad Boys".
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Old 08-12-2005, 06:07 PM   #9 of 14
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It's funny how some of you remember how movies sounded back in the theaters several years ago, even give comparisons between formats that didn't take place side by side for obvious reasons.Fascinating!
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Old 08-12-2005, 07:08 PM   #10 of 14
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Home SDDS? Why? Are you going to pair it with your 50 foot screen?
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Old 08-13-2005, 10:22 AM   #11 of 14
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I worked at a theater with an 8 channel SDDS screen and was never that impressed by it. The SR-D(Dolby Digital) and DTS houses sounded far better every time. I know this because we routinely ran multiple prints so I could go in and do comparisons on different scenes and the SDDS always sounded thin. The bass response was always superior in the other 2 formats with the DTS just edging out the SR-D. And don't get me started on how often SDDS tracks went out. Because the SDDS track is on the outside edge of the film it was always get worn first and consequently would begin to fail after only a few weeks. Just my 2 cents
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