Kevin Grey

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"Whoring" himself out to the media (paid interviews, book and movie deals, etc) is really the only way he could have made money off his exploits. NYPD isn't going to pay him extra or anything. He's already a Lieutenant, which is pretty darn good, but he's also likely paying some alimony and a lot of years of child support as well.

And I didn't think the Lucy relationship was all that weird- they were just having a family spat when the movie started. She showed how much she loved him when she told bad guys posing as police to call her father when she was trapped in the elevator.

WillG

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If that couldn't even save the marraige of John and Holly, there's no reason to think that the daughter couldn't be pissed at him for some reason (at the start of the movie he is literally stalking her). Relationships aren't really McClane's forte it seems.

oscar_merkx

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I really enjoyed DH 4.0

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Inspector Hammer!

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Hey, guys, i'm very much alive, I lost my internet for a couple of weeks but i'm back now.

Saw this film twice since we last met...loved it! It without a doubt had the DH flavour and McClane can still crack wise with the best of them. While he was a little more grizzled and worn down here he still rose to the occasion to take care of a situation when no one else can handle.

The only complaint I had with the film was the music by Marco Baltrami, he's my all time least favorite film composer, all of his scores sound cheap and prepackaged to me, they don't have that commanding presance that Michael Kamen's music had and it showed. To me the musoc is every bit a part of these films as much as the actors are, he made a few attempts at recreating certain passages of the DH music but the difference between his work and Kamen's was distractingly noticable to me.

I was also sort of hoping that Holly would show up and immediately get shot or hit by a carreening bus or something, that bitch.

Okay, onto the issue that we've discussed ad nausium these past few weeks, the rating, it was fine IMO, the body count was high sans blood and John managed to get a few "shits" in there, it actually made this McClane seem more mature than before which was a plus if you ask me.

Another plus was the comraderie between McClane and Justin Long's Matt, the two really worked well together and Justin continues to prove that when you want an undeniably likable kid in your film, he's your guy.

But, the real reason we see these films is the action and it sizzled at time, the much talked about flipping car was still suspensful because we got to actually see it happen in context and the ending that has

Tim Olaphant was okay as the heavy, if anything he was funny to listen to and his plot, his 'fire sale" was just diabolical enough to carry us through another adventure.

Okay, I admit it, i'm a complete ass lol, I slammed this film and bashed it because of the rating and it became very clear to me about 5 minutes into it that I just didn't care, this was a DH movie and my temporary insanity melted away and I was returned to the proper state of mind to get maximum enjoyment.

Fave line from the entire film..."Mya? You mean that skinny asian chick who liked to kick people? Last time I saw her she was at the bottom of an elevator shaft with an SUV up her ass."

Wouldn't be a DH film without an elevator shaft now would it?

4 's out of 5 's for Live Free or Die Hard.

"There was that time I wanted to be an astronaut.
I wanted to be the first one to kill somebody on the moon."

WillG

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Well, even though I did ultimately enjoy the film. I did kind of miss that signature graphic violence of the past three films. I wouldn't have minded a more mature villian in the vein of the last three films as opposed to a young techie. But it's not too big a deal I suppose.

It's a good movie and I liked it. But I still do wish they would have just gone with the R rating and filmed it in Panavision.

Yee-Ming

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FWIW, I enjoyed it. Didn't even think about the ratings hoo-ha, although now in retrospect the language was a little tame.

Having now read this thread from start to finish, could someone please explain to this non-techhead the hoo-ha about Panavision v. Super 35? I know briefly what they are, anamorphic v. flat: is the issue perceived image quality (or rather, lesser quality) in Super 35 after the full frame is cropped, as opposed to use of the entire frame of film anamorphically with Panavision? If so, shouldn't improvements in film stock make that less of an issue today, as opposed to the late 80s/early 90s when the first three Die Hards were shot?

Inspector Hammer!

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What I miss about Panavision and anamorphic, Yee, is the softness, the slightly out of focus backgrounds while keeping tight focus on the subject or subjects and more than anything I miss those glorious lens flares.

While the film rocked it simply didn't look like a DH film because all of those things which have become staples of this series were absent here.

"There was that time I wanted to be an astronaut.
I wanted to be the first one to kill somebody on the moon."

Lord Dalek

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yee-Ming Having now read this thread from start to finish, could someone please explain to this non-techhead the hoo-ha about Panavision v. Super 35? I know briefly what they are, anamorphic v. flat: is the issue perceived image quality (or rather, lesser quality) in Super 35 after the full frame is cropped, as opposed to use of the entire frame of film anamorphically with Panavision? If so, shouldn't improvements in film stock make that less of an issue today, as opposed to the late 80s/early 90s when the first three Die Hards were shot?

Well yeah, with the advent of the Digital Intermediate process (which just about all films made in the past 4 years utilize) you're skipping the optical printing phase which adds a ton of grain to the image (compare a more recent DI-d Super 35 film like Spider-man 2 to older non-DI'd ones like Top Gun and Terminator 2, you'll notice the difference in overall picture quality immediately).

On another note, is anyone still shooting full 4-perf, or is that dead?

Sam Favate

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Finally saw this last night and enjoyed it a lot. It fell apart a bit at the end for me, with the fighter jet and McClane shooting through himself (he would have lost an arm for cryin' out loud!), but the movie as a whole was very good and ranks with the previous three in the series (all of which I really liked). Thumbs up too for Justin Long who was great. Looking forward to seeing it again on DVD.

I don't have time enough to watch all these DVDs!

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Jose Martinez

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So what's the title for DH5? Old Habits Die Hard? Sears Die Hard? Die Hard Battery?

Live Free or DIE!!!!!

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