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Old 05-06-2004, 12:04 PM   #1 of 143
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I still have hope for this one. This should be a decent movie while providing some good summer action.

Peter Travers liked it:
So what if Troy falls short of its good intentions to pave the road to boffo glory with art? You are not going to resist a Gladiator-size epic with studly guys, led by Brad Pitt buffed to steroidal splendor as Achilles, playing a game of "my dick is bigger than yours" by going to war over a babe. OK, the story is direct from Homer, with attendant reminders of slogging through The Iliad in lit class. But Troy, besides being tremendously entertaining, is the best crib-sheet guide to Homer ever. Director Wolfgang Petersen (The Perfect Storm) rips and roars through the tale, filling the screen with all the action a $200 million budget can buy. In battle scenes, Petersen whips his computers into a frenzy, making 1,000 extras in soldier drag look like 50,000, each with a mean hair up his butt. These Troy boys may wear sissy sandals, but they can stick in a sword and gut an opponent with enough artery-piercing, entrail-twisting brio to earn an R rating.
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Troy lacks the focus of Gladiator, not to mention that Oscar winner's scrappy wit. But why kick a gift horse when you're in summer-movie heaven?


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Old 05-06-2004, 01:05 PM   #2 of 143
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From Todd McCarthy:

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Unlike the Romans, the Greeks have never been particularly well served by Hollywood, and the giant new epic "Troy" doesn't do a whole lot to right the balance. Despite a sensationally attractive cast and an array of well-staged combat scenes presented on a vast scale, Wolfgang Petersen's highly telescoped rendition of the Trojan War lurches ahead in fits and starts for much of its hefty running time, to OK effect...

Despite all the technological advances and know-how brought to bear on this loose adaptation of Homer's "The Iliad," "Troy" boasts almost precisely the same pros and cons as a standard-issue historical spectacle of the '50s: great production values, spectacular battles and some fine actors in grand roles on the one hand; hokey dialogue, insipid romance and dull interstitial downtime between set-pieces on the other.

For now, I'll still be seeing this one.

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Old 05-06-2004, 01:21 PM   #3 of 143
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OK, I just got back and I REALLY dug this movie.

For a flick so freakin' long, it really breezes by at a satisfyingly brisk clip.

Some amazing action, great work from Bana, Gleeson and a few others...

Good stuff. Gets the Weinberg seal of stunned approval.
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Old 05-06-2004, 01:31 PM   #4 of 143
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How about my boy Bean, Weinberg. Screw those pretty boys (except Bana, I like him)...how about BEAN???

Nudity?

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Old 05-06-2004, 01:42 PM   #5 of 143
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I'm still looking forward to this one.



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Old 05-06-2004, 01:55 PM   #6 of 143
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Sorry, Chuck. No nudity from Sean Bean.



But honestly: he's one of the best things in the movie. His Odysseus isn't that huge a character, but Bean does a great job with it.
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Old 05-06-2004, 02:06 PM   #7 of 143
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If Sean Bean actually got naked, this movie would make $500 million dollars, and most of it from my wife

Thanks for the response.

I look forward to checking it out,
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Old 05-06-2004, 02:40 PM   #8 of 143
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I've seen plenty of movies that received mixed reviews and ended up enjoying myself tremendously. Troy is still on my must-see list.



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Old 05-06-2004, 03:28 PM   #9 of 143
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Hopefully, Bean can parlay this into an Odyssey movie.



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Hey kid you got no class. Hit the bums, kid. Run like the devil. Get a tin can and take up mooching. Knock on back doors for a nickel.
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Old 05-06-2004, 05:20 PM   #10 of 143
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Good to get some perspective on this one. I love the Illiad in general and think the material, properly trimmed, is outstanding.

While I'm glad for the supporting cast, what about the dynamic between Achilles & Hector? They may not appear alot together, but it's pretty important when they do!
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Old 05-07-2004, 12:44 AM   #11 of 143
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