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Old 01-10-2005, 05:48 PM   #31 of 46
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I guess everybody forgot Ronin.



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Old 01-10-2005, 07:17 PM   #32 of 46
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Perhaps the problem is that millions are going to see MEET THE PARENTS and ANALYZE THIS when they should be seeking out THIS BOY'S LIFE or A BRONX TALE.


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Old 01-10-2005, 11:27 PM   #33 of 46
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Perhaps the problem is that millions are going to see MEET THE PARENTS and ANALYZE THIS when they should be seeking out THIS BOY'S LIFE or A BRONX TALE.
Why? Maybe the problem is that some people simply think Meet the Parents and Analyze This are great films, every bit as good as This Boy's Life or A Bronx Tale.



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Old 01-10-2005, 11:58 PM   #34 of 46
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Why? Maybe the problem is that some people simply think Meet the Parents and Analyze This are great films, every bit as good as This Boy's Life or A Bronx Tale.


I know people who think WAYNE'S WORLD is better than RAGING BULL. Our opinions on what's better really isn't the issue.

I've enjoyed Robert DeNiro's "comedies" as much as anyone else. However, if someone thinks he should stick to drama then I usually bring up recent films like A BRONX TALE or THIS BOY'S LIFE. When we enter the "DeNiro is done" talk, most people point to the comedies but when some of these dramas are brought up, it appears no one has seen them.

Next to Brando I'd say DeNiro is my favorite actor and I've defended him on these threads throughout the past four or five years. Brando got burned out after LAST TANGO IN PARIS so perhaps DeNiro is burned out and simply wants to do easier work. I'm not going to fault him for that or fault him for making cash.

DeNiro might not be the DeNiro of 73-80 but how many actors in history has had such a stretch? Not too many so I don't see the point in people getting upset that DeNiro hasn't matched his performances from TAXI DRIVER or RAGING BULL.

This debate could go back to the "small" vs "mainstream" films. I enjoyed MEET THE PARENTS and ANALYZE THIS but I agree they are safe films. For some reason, Nicholson is doing safe work but no one really says too much about it. It seems both actors are having a good time having fun with this stuff so I see no reason to complain.

However, if people think DeNiro has been washed up over the past ten years due to these comedies, I'd certainly suggest they watch something else. There are many underrated gems from the 80's and 90's that no one ever talks about. MAD DOG AND GLORY is a comedy that's never really gotten any respect. Even here, DeNiro is getting laughs playing against his own image. Much like what he's doing in PARENTS.


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Old 01-11-2005, 12:12 AM   #35 of 46
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I guess everybody forgot Ronin.
Not me. That was that last great effort IMO.

It was right after that with Flawless that it began. Since then only the Score was reasonable De Niro.

Now, if he had simply intermixed Meet the Parents and Analyze This with some quality films, or if he had done comedies on par with stuff by the Coens or Wes Anderson (sorry George, a lot of people find him very funny) then I would have a different view.

But you put me through Showtime, 15 Minutes, Rocky and Bullwinkle, Flawless in the meantime and you aren't getting it done anymore. To top it off he dropped Analyze That on us which didn't receive the same joyous response that the first film did.

I don't mind him doing comedy, I mind him doing lots of very unchallenging work. Maybe I don't even mind, as long as no one minds me agreeing with the idea that he is "working retired" now.
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Old 01-14-2005, 08:28 AM   #36 of 46
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Funnily enough, just after I read this thread, I turned on the TV and there was Bobby, advertising American Express !

I don't feel that judgemental about what DeNiro's up to, but the simple fact is that the guy's been in several of the greatest films of all time. It's hard not to be disappointed by his choices in recent times. He must get better scripts than the ones he chooses to do. I'd love to see him do a real quality comeback - a one/two punch like Brando with THE GODFATHER and LAST TANGO IN PARIS or Kietel with RESERVOIR DOGS and BAD LIEUTENANT.



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Old 01-20-2005, 07:07 AM   #37 of 46
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From the IMDb, 20 January 2005
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De Niro and Scorsese Discuss 'Taxi Driver' Sequel

Screen legend Robert De Niro has reunited with iconic director Martin Scorsese to work on a sequel to their classic movie Taxi Driver. The Oscar-winning actor, who starred as disturbed Vietnam veteran Travis Bickle in the 1976 film, has confirmed the movie veterans are mulling over script ideas for a follow-up to the gritty original. Apart from his comedy turn in Meet The Parents and its recent sequel Meet The Fockers, De Niro has starred in a series of flop films - and critics are hoping Travis Bickle's resurrection will restore his reputation as one of the greatest dramatic actors of all time. De Niro, 61, says, "I was talking with Martin Scorsese about doing what I guess you'd call a sequel to Taxi Driver, where he is older."
Hope it's not true. I just don't see what the point would be.



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Old 01-20-2005, 10:26 AM   #38 of 46
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Well there. If this isn't a move to reboost his (artistic) career by returning to sure thing, I don't know what is.

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Old 01-20-2005, 04:06 PM   #39 of 46
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While Scorsese is a great director and De Niro is a great actor, I doubt they can make a great movie from that premise. A Taxi Driver sequel is completely unnecessary and could potentially tarnish the legacy of its predecessor. I hate when amazing directors talk about going back to the stories/franchises they did earlier in their careers and adding to them with new movies. They should just show some courage and maturity and move on to new stories. I hope Sam Raimi never does another Evil Dead movie, and I'm glad Ridley Scott recently said he wouldn't do another Alien movie. It's cowardly and horribly uncreative to go back to one's old movies for a premise.


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Old 01-21-2005, 12:21 AM   #40 of 46
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Why doesn't Woody Allen make funny movies anymore? Don't you just hate it people have the audacity to behave in ways inconsistent with our expectations.
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Old 01-21-2005, 09:23 AM   #41 of 46
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Ronin is a sweet movie always thought underrated.



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