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09-01-2004, 02:08 PM
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*********Was Jersey Girl really that bad?********
I enjoyed it - but it will be the first Smith movie that I don't buy - put it that way.
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09-01-2004, 02:31 PM
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I enjoyed it - but it will be the first Smith movie that I don't buy - put it that way.
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That's exactly how I feel about it. To me, it felt like a dumbed-down version of About a boy. Definitely with some good moments, and Affleck was solid...but I've seen the story told better before. |
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09-01-2004, 03:25 PM
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I suppose I'll rent Jersey Girl, but Clerks X is a definite buy for me. Unfortunatly, it'll have to wait till I get back from Greece after the 17th.
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09-01-2004, 04:27 PM
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I always told people Clerks and Pulp Fiction had the best dialogue of all the films made in the 90's.
And it will be nice to see what a new clerks could be... better equipment, director and crew now have multiple movies "under their belt", have more money to spend (of course, having only $27k is probably what made Clerks good, having to rely on the original script and not much else).
And I think we can stop calling them the 'Jersey Trilogy'. One more after Clerks part deux and he have the 'Jersey Octuplets'. 
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09-01-2004, 09:27 PM
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I always told people Clerks and Pulp Fiction had the best dialogue of all the films made in the 90's.
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I would agree with you if not for the fact that the bulk of the Coen Brothers' output was released during the 90's.
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09-01-2004, 10:04 PM
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Was Jersey Girl really that bad? It came and went from theatres before I had a chance to see it.
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It wasn't BAD, but it was FORGETTABLE. That's the first time I've used that term to describe a Smith flick. Had its moments but left very little impression. Even though I hated Mallrats, at least I REMEMBERED it later!
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09-01-2004, 11:47 PM
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Kevin Smith announces "Clerks 2" and Gary->Dee announces he doesn't give a shit.
Sorry folks, not trying to thread fart. I'm the oil to Kevin Smith's water. If he ever makes a movie I'm remotely interested in let alone entertained by, I'll be surprised.
IMO he needs to make a radically cool movie. Get away from the slacker comedy shtick. He loves comic books to death and yet - what is he waiting for? There's gotta be a hot property out there he could turn into a movie.. to make me at least like him. Maybe I'm just being selfish. |
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09-02-2004, 01:02 AM
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Gary -- What's that smell? Who cut the cheese.
Count me with the disappointed. I'd rather see Smith make the Green Hornet than go back to the Clerks well. Clerks = hilarious. Mallrats = hilarious (sorry guys, it's my favorite Smith movie -- I'm a comic dork). Dogma = eh, OK overall. (I do believe in this!) Jay and Silent Bob = funny, would really like it minus the boo-boo kitty-fuck (that ruins it for me).
I like his stuff, I like his comics (his Clerks and Spider-Man/Daredevil works), like his stuff overall, but he said he was done with Jay/Silent Bob.
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09-02-2004, 08:00 PM
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I don't know if it is just a return to the comfortable world, at least in terms of motivation.
I believe Smith and can understand the idea of wanting to continue to work with characters you like. I think many good writers and filmmakers feel such a pull. The love of a character is not limited to only the audience after all.
Ray did his Apu triology as one example. John Ford did it to, at best slightly altering names or characters but basically revisiting the same situation and characters with his unofficial trilogy (plus others) including SWA Yellow Ribbon. Tarintino continues to fiddle with the idea of getting the Vega Brothers back on screen.
Many filmmakers like to revisit characters and find something new within them. They find them interesting subjects or the setting to be an interesting world to move characters around in.
Maybe Scoresese was just "playing it safe" when he did Casino, maybe Ford and Ray were doing the same. Leone and Eastwood...all about the safe, familiar work too. Heck, maybe that's what Hitchcock was doing when he remade his own Man Who Knew Too Much.
Not everything is a cash-in or an uninspired safety net in the world of revisiting topics in narrative art. Smith has already shown an ability to do films of different tone and theme within this same world, even if visually his films remain the same. Certain Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy and Dogma are very different genres and topics that often don't have cross-appeal to fans of the other films.
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09-02-2004, 08:02 PM
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That's exactly how I feel about it. To me, it felt like a dumbed-down version of About a boy. Definitely with some good moments, and Affleck was solid...but I've seen the story told better before.
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100% agreed (I recall us already noting our agreement on the subject back when it came out).
If anything THAT was Smith's "safest" film, which was a big part of the problem. |
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