Malcolm R

Disney, Pixar to go separate ways

Robert Anthony

NICE.

Who gets distro now? THAT'S the fun question.

Dreamworks is probably out.
Fox has their own CGI studio, right?

Who fits?

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Frank Grimes

Great news! Walt would be so proud of the way the company is being run right now...

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ThomasC

There's Paramount, University, Sony/Columbia, and Warner Brothers/New Line. There's MGM too, but they may be sold to Time Warner.

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Peter Kline

I know there's a lot of Disney-bashing at HTF.

The fact is, however, that no other studio has the clout that Disney has in the family film business.

This is too bad it's not necessarily a good thing in the long run for Pixar. In fact, Pixar will lose all rights to the characters for the films Disney has distributed, which will include, I believe, the upcoming The Incredibles (2005).

An interesting development will be what happens to Michael Eisner. And, the way that Hollywood works, don't believe that every other studio would be willing to give the company away for rights to Pixar product. It will be an interesting year. And, don't count Disney out just yet.

Sean Laughter

I've heard this whole argument, and I'm not sure I'm buying it. Disney's "clout" certainly hasn't helped most of its non-Pixar productions do the same business as the Pixar films.

Morgan Jolley

If a film is good, the reviews will help it out enough, followed by word of mouth. Pixar is already well known enough, and they can advertise their films with "from the people who brought you Toy Story/Monsters Inc./Finding Nemo" even if they don't own the rights to those movies.

Robert Anthony

I'm inclined to agree with Sean: I think the "Disney" clout is wholly Pixar's now. The torch has been passed ,for lack of a better, less grandiose and corny expression

I'm not just talking quality of film--although that should be enough. But reputation and overall customer satisfaction. How much Disney success WITHOUT Pixar has there been? not much .Certainly a hell of a lot more flops. And bad blood. And blah, boring storytelling that's disillusioning a lot of moviegoers, parents AND children.

None of that happens with Pixar. They're 5 for 5, and people are coming to depend on Pixar the way people USED to depend on Disney.

I bet Warner's picks em up.

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Sean Laughter

*drools at thought of a Pixar remake/sequel to "The Iron Giant"*

Robert Anthony

Yeah, I thought of that as I was writing it. I first thought of it because it just makes sense that Warners--which has always been seen as kind-of in competition with the Disney characters (Bugs vs Mickey, Daffy vs Donald, etc. etc.) would make a move to bolster their own Family section with Pixar.

But Brad Bird is in tight with Pixar...And Pixar's been talking about their own 2-d animation projects...

Warner's also has that huge media conglomerate thing going for em...

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Chris

If this doesn't affirm damn near everything Roy Disney was saying about Eisner's ways to turn off important clients, I don't know what does. Expect Disney stock to plunge.

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