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Old 07-09-2003, 10:35 PM   #91 of 111
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I'm with the ones who say to just create a who new storyline, no Weaver, no returning characters. Though I do love the first 2 and like the last 2. I think the Ripley saga should have ended with Alien 3. Her dying at the end of 3 really ended that well, though I thought AR was fun, it was totally unnecessary(sp?) storywise IMO.
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Old 07-10-2003, 12:33 AM   #92 of 111
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sheldon M. wrote (post #88):

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There is really nothing of interest left to do with any more Alien movies.


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i don't know about you, but there are a lot of war movies that i find compelling, compulsively watchable, and deeply tragic....why not a war movie with aliens?

there are still so many cool things that can be done with the alien species. so, so many....


Oh, man, have we been through this before! Please see"Sci-Fi topic - Aliens vs Humans in films" post #43, "Alien films - An interesting observation... " post #17, and "Alien films - An interesting observation... " post #20.
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Old 07-10-2003, 12:57 AM   #93 of 111
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What? Maybe I watched a different movie, but ONE marine made it off the planet. ONE



Yeah-one marine made it off but the rest killed dozens of Aliens
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Old 07-10-2003, 07:31 AM   #94 of 111
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Oh, man, have we been through this before!

yeah. i guess there's just nothing left to say about it....
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:37 PM   #95 of 111
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yeah. i guess there's just nothing left to say about it....

There seems to be nothing compelling---or ORIGINAL---on offer here. That's for sure.
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:51 PM   #96 of 111
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There seems to be nothing compelling---or ORIGINAL---on offer here. That's for sure.

nothing compelling to you.

that's for sure.
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Old 07-10-2003, 04:05 PM   #97 of 111
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nothing compelling to you.

that's for sure.

You're right. I don't feel compelled by what is essentially a lot a jabber about the rehashing of the first two Alien movies. I think Mr. Cameron had it right when, shortly after the successful release of Aliens (1986), he was asked about doing a second Alien sequel (paraphrasis): "I have nothing more to add to the Alien saga." (And I believe that applies still, even if he's changed his mind now.)
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Old 07-10-2003, 04:13 PM   #98 of 111
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"I have nothing more to add to the Alien saga."

he very well may not. but that doesn't mean there's nothing to be added.

for instance, almost any one of the dark horse alien mini-series is an addition to what is arguably the alien apologue, as well as an interesting (dare i say compelling and ORIGINAL) accretion to the literature of I-D-E-A-S you (rightly, i think) believe science fiction to be.
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Old 07-10-2003, 04:32 PM   #99 of 111
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he very well may not. but that doesn't mean there's nothing to be added.

Actually, if you've read my other (linked) posts carefully you should have been able to pick up on the fact that I do believe that there are some interesting things that could still be done with the material. (What I consider "unfinished business".) However, I remain unconvinced that big-time Hollywood movie-makers are willing to take those risks and do those things. And, judging by a lot of the ideas expressed here and in the MANY other previous HTF threads on this topic---if we may assume the ideas expressed there to be representative of the tastes and expectations of the likely movie-going audience for such films---I can understand why they wouldn't be willing to take such risks.
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Old 07-10-2003, 06:06 PM   #100 of 111
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Actually, if you've read my other (linked) posts carefully you should have been able to pick up on the fact that I do believe that there are some interesting things that could still be done with the material. (What I consider "unfinished business".)

yeah, i really only read one of them carefully. and even so, you use big words in long sentences; bigger words in longer sentences than i am used to processing...

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However, I remain unconvinced that big-time Hollywood movie-makers are willing to take those risks and do those things. And, judging by a lot of the ideas expressed here and in the MANY other previous HTF threads on this topic---if we may assume the ideas expressed there to be representative of the tastes and expectations of the likely movie-going audience for such films---I can understand why they wouldn't be willing to take such risks.

this, on the other hand, is beautifully succinct; truer words have perhaps never been spoken.

i could have sworn i was the only person around here who thought like this.

cool.

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Old 07-11-2003, 08:40 AM   #101 of 111
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there are still so many cool things that can be done with the alien species.

Oh, man, have we been through this before! Please see... post #43,... post #17, and post #20.
Let me guess, all posts by you, right?!

There seems to be nothing compelling---or ORIGINAL---on offer here. That's for sure.

You're right. I don't feel compelled by what is essentially a lot a jabber...

...judging by a lot of the ideas expressed here... ---if we may assume the ideas expressed... to be representative of the tastes and expectations of the likely movie-going audience for such films---I can understand why they wouldn't be willing to take such risks.

Sheesh, Rex, get off of it. I mean this thread really hasn't been about offering scenarios for possible Alien sequels, just that Cameron might be interested in continuing the franchise.



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Old 07-12-2003, 12:34 AM   #102 of 111
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john doran wrote (post #89):

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. . . . there are still so many cool things that can be done with the alien species.


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Oh, man, have we been through this before! Please see... post #43,... post #17, and post #20.


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Let me guess, all posts by you, right?!

Yes, all that I specifically designated are by me, but they are sandwiched between other posts of people with contrasting ideas a