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Old 07-02-2003, 06:44 PM   #61 of 399
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the film a lot, I would give it . Just as a Terminator film I felt it was a bit disappointing and ultimately unnecessary.


Can you clarify how it's possible to be bored all the way through a movie, having seen it all and done it before, and then come out and say this??
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Old 07-02-2003, 06:47 PM   #62 of 399
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The ending at first was cool, in a Twilight Zone sort of way, but upon closer examination I'm not happy at all with how things turned out. I always imagined John Connor being a slave to the robots and rebelling against them, becoming a great military leader. Instead he's just some guy that just happens to be standing next to a microphone and a speaker. That doesn't make him a very compelling character. I have no desire to see how this plays out.

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Old 07-02-2003, 06:58 PM   #63 of 399
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I was really impressed with how "solid" the action sequences were - again & again, they went out of their way to make sure both Terminators appeared as solid hunks of metal that bashed & destroyed everything they collided with. No gravity defying wire tricks, no super slow motion bullet effects.



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Old 07-02-2003, 07:23 PM   #64 of 399
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Apropos the musical score...it was an atrocity, but the one thing that annoyed me the most was during most of the tense scenes the music that played was very reminscent of music from horror movies, in particular Scream.

I haven't the slightest idea why Brad Fidel didn't score the film. Anyone know the reason?
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Old 07-02-2003, 07:23 PM   #65 of 399
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Reread my post. Where did I say I was bored?



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Old 07-02-2003, 07:45 PM   #66 of 399
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If you didn't like T2, I doubt you will like T3. And I think it is neither smarter nor dumber than most films of its ilk. It's just there. A good action film, an O.K. Terminator film.
I believe I said I enjoyed T2 tremendously, but I have more problems with the movie than I do with T1. If T3 is like T2 was to me (lots of plot holes, annoying/underdeveloped characters, repetitive plot) I'll still enjoy it for what it is; an action movie that hopefully doesn't insult my intelligence too much.
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Old 07-02-2003, 07:51 PM   #67 of 399
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I wasn't speaking directly to you Marvin, just viewers in general.



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Old 07-02-2003, 08:09 PM   #68 of 399
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Did anyone else notice Awnuld getting kind of more emotional in this film? Especially when he gets mad and smashes the car before he shuts down and other parts.

The line that really stood out for me and kind of got me teary was when John Conner goes under that blast door and says "Thank You" and Awnuld says "We'll meet again", or something like that. That to me gave me a sense of emotion or something I dont know.
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Old 07-02-2003, 08:34 PM   #69 of 399
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We'll meet again meaning that Ahnuld will eventually
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kill him!
so the line has a dark twist to it as do many of the lines upon closer examination. The script is actually very layered with double meanings and visual clues of things to come, homages to past T films, etc...I for one am VERY happy with how it turned out.

Neil: He's not just a guy next to a microphone, the whole point of the film (or one of them) was that there was no way to avoid it, HE IS THE LEADER, judgment day WILL happen, and there's nothing they can do about it; it makes his characters' slow transformation into accepting his fate quite memorable, and makes me REALLY want to know how things turn out (T4). Remember, they tried as hard as they could to stop Judgement Day, Skynet, etc., altering the time line several times already starting with T1, then T2, but in the end, HE is going to be the leader, one way or another. And his acceptance of that fate at the end is both sad and chilling, much more inline with the uncertain, melancholy tone at the end of T1 as Sarah drives toward that storm.

Of course, YMMV, obviously!

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He must have died while carving it!...
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Old 07-02-2003, 09:14 PM   #70 of 399
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Great post, Dennis! I agree with you completely.
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Old 07-02-2003, 09:29 PM   #71 of 399
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I though this movie was absolutely amazing... SFX were some of the best I have ever seen, and Arnold is back , and better than ever!!! Simply awesome flick!!!



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