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Old 07-02-2003, 03:34 AM   #31 of 399
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The audio track on this movie was phenomenal as others have mentioned. Demo disk anyone?

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Old 07-02-2003, 03:52 AM   #32 of 399
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Maybe I missed it but did it say anywhere in the opening credits "Based on characters created by James Cameron" or something to that effect. It didn't in the closing credits. And I'm pretty sure that it didn't in the opening either.
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Old 07-02-2003, 05:22 AM   #33 of 399
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Wow! I was very pleasantly surprised by this one. Heading in, my friend and I expected it to be pretty good, better than Hulk -- Yeah, definitely better than the Hulk.

I liked the balance of humor (although it pushed it a little here and there,) but overall thought it flowed. Great action, movie moved pretty fast, up until the end.

Was a little put off by a few convenient things happening through the story (the last half hour with the plane being the biggest one), but was able to accept that OK, Terminators can still exist, OK, I can see how this is working out. I think that was my biggest worry about the movie would be that they wouldn't explain that enough.

Absolutely loved the ending.

Now for one spoiler that I don't feel like tagging (since this is the discussion thread) Was anyone wishing that when the AMPM dude asked Ahnold if he was going to pay for all that stuff, that he would have just looked at him and said "No." That would have been much cooler! (And beat what he really said.)

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Old 07-02-2003, 07:19 AM   #34 of 399
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I gotta say I enjoyed it a lot, though I was not really expecting to like it going into the theater. The beginning was somewhat weak IMO, the action was almost pointless even if very well done and Arnold's comedic entry scene seemed misplaced compared to his debut in T2 and T. At some point however, and I honestly don't recall when, it changed for me and became fun. It got stronger as the story developed and the surprise ending was simply outstanding.

I do feel the ending has one serious logical weakness - we are told Skynet is now largely a computer program that has now infiltrated and resides on all the planet's computers instead of being centralized in a super secret "core" in some military bunker. While that is an excellent and clever idea especailly considering the growth of Internet since T2, it does present a serious problem. When Skynet launches all the world's nuclear weapons the blast/heat effects and EMP would destroy the vast majority of both civilian and unhardened military computers and associated networking infrastructure and would essentially kill Skynet, not to mention all the added damage caused by the disruption in electric power generation and distribution. It would seem to be a suicidal move.
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Old 07-02-2003, 07:24 AM   #35 of 399
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unless skynet resides on computers that are protected from nuclear destruction....


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Old 07-02-2003, 07:30 AM   #36 of 399
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I just have one question: seeing as how the armaggeddon thing was supposed to take place in 1999, how do they deal with that in the movie? I don't want a spoiler about the ending, but does the movie take place in 1999?

The timeline was changed by the destruction of the lab etc in T2.



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Old 07-02-2003, 09:43 AM   #37 of 399
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ya they mention in the movie that blowing up the lab just delayed what was suppose to happen.
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Old 07-02-2003, 11:31 AM   #38 of 399
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Well, I saw it last night and it was a lot better than I expected going into it. The ending worked, and it got rid of all the "machine trying to be human" thing that made T2 a little hokey at times. That being said, the TX wasn't near as mean or intimidating as the T1000, but I did like the twists with the T101 character (and the good explanation as to why he's still around and not completely obsolete).

Will there be a T4? Who knows...I still have my idea (A human Arnold who fights for the resistance, and is captured as the prototype for the terminators), but I guess it depends on how much money this one makes.
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Old 07-02-2003, 11:37 AM   #39 of 399
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5 out of 5 stars!!!

I was very worried about this movie because Cameron was not attached to it.

I had nothing to be worried about! The CGI is almost flawless (end where they CGd out Arnold's face was kind of obvious). Other than that it all worked flawlessly.

TX was a great character and I would have like Furlong back but Stahl was good.

I loved all the Skynet stuff and early Terminators.

I was hooked from beginning to end.

Only real complaint: Brad Fiedel should have done the score...the themes were BARELY used.
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Old 07-02-2003, 11:48 AM   #40 of 399
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Boo-urns.

I LOVE the Terminator movies, but this one just didn't do it for me. I thought the script was weak, very thin compared to T2. Not much really happens in this one, it just seems like one big chase sequence.

Kristanna Loken was completely one-note as the TX, she was barely even a character. She just walked around and stared. As mentioned before, Robert Patrick was a much more frightening antagonist.

And another thing... I hate, hate, hate, hate the trend where a sequel is nothing more than a setup for the next movie. Give me a whole movie! I paid for a whole ticket! The ending, particularly the last half hour, was a big disappointment for me. I could get into everything up until Claire Danes says "My father's plane, I trained on it!" It's too bad, because I thought the beginning was so promising, showing John Connor after judgement day never happened.

There was so much more that they could have done with this movie.
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Old 07-02-2003, 12:09 PM   #41 of 399
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I could get into everything up until Claire Danes says "My father's plane, I trained on it!"


That and the whole supercollider/magnet deal. If either of them were wearing any metal (the engagement ring?) it would have been pretty bad. Plus, he has a gun later in the shelter, so he definitely had metal on him on in the pack.

Did anyone else notice the window display where the T-X ingressed into the present time? The three manequins looked a lot like the stars of a movie that opened last week, especially the one on the right! Perhaps a little in-joke.

I was ready to give up after the first reel with all the re-explaining and predictable chases, but the end sold me.



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