SWIMMING POOL - What's it all about? (Spoilers within!) - Page 2

Ross Williams · 01-21-2004, 04:08 PM

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And so far no one's mentioned "the tracking shot".

If you clue me in on what you're refering too, I might comment on it.

Ted Lee · 01-21-2004, 04:43 PM

ross - i'm pretty he's referring to the shot when rampling is trying to seduce the gardener.

btw, who is fassbinder?

Lew Crippen · 01-21-2004, 05:36 PM

Ted, try this replacement

~~is trying to seduce~~ with is seducing.

Ted Lee · 01-21-2004, 05:55 PM

hmm....

but did she really seduce the gardener? or was that also just part of her dreamworld?

Lew Crippen · 01-21-2004, 05:56 PM

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btw, who is fassbinder?

Rainer Werner Fassbinder was sort the the Kurt Corbain of German cinema of the 70s: he had an enormous output of films in a very short time, lived a chaotic life filled with drugs, sex of every kind and rebellion, ended by a self-induced drug overdose (though not necessarily suicide).

He, along with Werner Herzog and others began what became known as the new German cinema in the late 60s and which was codified enough by ’76 so that the BBC produced a feature on it (you can see this as an extra on Criterion’s Ali: Fear Eats the Soul. Also available on Criterion is what many consider is seminal work, The BRD Trilogy, the box set also contains a feature on his life and work.

Ross Williams · 01-21-2004, 07:16 PM

Her seducing of the gardener was ridiculous. Even if that was just part of her book, I felt it was completely out of character. She's a smart woman, there's no other way for her to divert his attention? That is where the movie really lost me.

However, I keep thinking and talking about the film, which is much more than I can say about 95% of movies I watch these days. So it obviously has something going for it, I just can't figure out exactly what it is.

Ted Lee · 01-21-2004, 07:53 PM

i hear ya ross.

my take is that since this was just a dream, she could have done whatever she wanted. as part of the whole "i'll have sex with who i want when i want" concept, it fits.

Cameron Yee · 01-21-2004, 07:55 PM

So it obviously has something going for it, I just can't figure out exactly what it is.

I think it's all the yogurt she ate.

Ross Williams · 01-21-2004, 08:13 PM

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my take is that since this was just a dream

Oh yeah, I forgot about the dream sequences within the film. (Once I realized it was all her book, I guess I placed it all in the same category.) It does make sense within that realm.

I think I need to rewatch this, without all the hype preceeding it.

Todd Smigelski · 01-22-2004, 03:53 PM

Just a tid bit here Ludivine (Julie) actually has a scar on her stomach.

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Has a scar on her lower abdomen as the result of a peritonitis operation. During the operation, the doctors found a tumour on her stomach. Luckily, the tumour was benign and was also removed. No complications derived from it.

Mike Kelly · 01-30-2004, 11:15 PM

If this was aboaut a fantasized Julie, one statement confuses me. Julie says at one point to Sarah, that her father would never leave his "family" to live with her and her mother at the villa. This could suggest that Julie is the daughter of the publisher and his French mistress, and that he had another daughter, Julia,(his daughter by his wife). So when Sarah walks by Julia at the end in the office, she imagines what it would have been like if Julia would have visited the villa, and realizes it wouldn't have been the same as having Julie there, thus the final image.

I'm not saying it wasn't all made up by Sarah. There are certainly other events in the film, such as the homicide, that point to the fantasy theory.