Ghost Rider...can you believe this? - Page 4

Brad M · 03-03-2007, 05:57 PM

I thought Nick Cage was great as Blaze but most of the time I was just looking at the giant boobs on the screen. They should have been given their own credit.

I had really high hopes for this film and up until the halfway point I was really happy. Then it started it's decent. I'd be interested in a longer cut since the runtime was so short. It seemed a bit rushed for me.

Chris Atkins · 06-25-2007, 09:23 PM

Enjoyed Cage. Elliot was pretty good too.

The rest was a rush job featuring the most pedestrian direction imaginable (e.g. 'How is my driving?' on the bumper of the semi).

6.5/10 (a full 2 points for Cage and Elliot, who are fun to watch).

Malcolm R · 06-25-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis

A little advice for Mark Steven Johnson: Flesh out the characters a little more, don't rush it, don't overdo it and take the material seriously.

Based on his commentary, he purposely lightened things up as much as possible to enhance the "commercial" appeal of the film. He was comparing his film to "Constantine," which he acknowledged was a good film but far too serious and dark which limited its commercial prospects.

Chris Atkins · 06-26-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Malcolm R

Based on his commentary, he purposely lightened things up as much as possible to enhance the "commercial" appeal of the film. He was comparing his film to "Constantine," which he acknowledged was a good film but far too serious and dark which limited its commercial prospects.

According to Box Office Mojo, Constantine made $230 million worldwide while Ghost Rider currently stands at $228 million worldwide. Constantine did better than Ghost Rider overseas.

So, Johnson must be talking about American audiences then.

Malcolm R · 06-26-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Atkins

So, Johnson must be talking about American audiences then.

Probably. I believe GR nearly doubled the domestic gross of Constantine.

Though I personally enjoyed Constantine much more.

Shawn_KE · 06-26-2007, 06:58 PM

Yea Cage and Elliot were great to watch. The movie should have just been called Johnny Blaze because his part of the movie was much more interesting than Ghost Rider, who beat each bad guy in 3 seconds, and in lame ways.

In the end, another Marvel film that won't be added to the collection.

Colin Jacobson · 06-26-2007, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Malcolm R

Probably. I believe GR nearly doubled the domestic gross of Constantine.

Not quite. Rider made $115m, so it would've needed to earn another $35m to double Constantine's $75 gross...

Malcolm R · 06-27-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Colin Jacobson

Not quite. Rider made $115m, so it would've needed to earn another $35m to double Constantine's $75 gross...

You're right. I was thinking GR did close to $140m.

Rhett_Y · 06-28-2007, 12:30 PM

I liked constantine alot better.. because it was much more darker themed and darker toned........

Wish GR was alot darker........

Seth Paxton · 07-06-2007, 12:40 PM

GR done with that Constantine tone would have been a lot more on track. The dark comedy of GR himself would still keep it "lighter" than the bitterness of the JC character did in that film.

I think character recognition went a long way toward GR's box office. It opened a lot stronger, despite worse reviews (by Rotten Tomatoe's count).

Constantine
29.7m/39% of total

Ghost Rider
45.3m/39% of total

And I think Hitch was stronger competition for Constantine than Terabithia was for GR. More people wanted to see GR before anyone actually saw it and decided on it's tone, for whatever reasons that might be.

So I think it's still valid to say that had GR been done closer in tone to Constantine it could have had stronger legs, been better reviewed, and indeed perhaps reached that double domestic of Constantine level. But instead he went corny.

Chuck Mayer · 07-06-2007, 06:02 PM

I netflixed this last night. It was abysmal. One of the weakest films I've seen in years. It was 100% surface, and bad surface at that. It felt like the person who made it (Johnson) had never even seen a movie...just a lot of trailers. Not because of hyper-editing, but just based on tone and structure.

Absolutely no organic flow to the film.

I can't say this too often (but I am a sucker for supernatural thrillers, so I saw this)...but I hated this thing. I did enjoy Constantine quite a bit. But that had a much more talented director, better acting (Weisz or Mendes push-up bra???, Stormare or Bentley???), and everything else was better

Hate,
Chuck