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Old 04-26-2003, 03:23 PM   #301 of 3706
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Meet the Parents, i thought it was funny, but i barely made it through the first time i saw it and can't stand watching it anymore. I just can't stand watching the protagonist make mistake after mistake.

ahh that I understand, I occasionally have the same problem. I get TOO into the movie and get very upset when the protagonist is incredibly 'dumb' and doesn't stop making retarded decision on top of decision that just makes things worse and worse.

I've found a way to enjoy these types of movies though (Like Meet the parents, or another genre I have the same trouble with, horror). If I catch myself getting angry with the stupidity of the protagonist, I sit back, tear my mind out of the world of the film as brutally as possible and tell myself repeatedly, "I don't care about any of these people; it's just a movie; it's a freaking comedy; THIS IS FUNNY; I should be enjoying this!; everything will work out fine in the end because its a popular (or screwball) comedy!" I'll repeat this to myself several times. and then go back (now that i've forcibly removed/prevented myself from caring too much about characters that were designed to be more stupid than my seven year old sister and try to enjoy the movie.

This worked wonders for Dead-Alive/Braindead, which made me realize my problem is not so much that I don't like horror, but that I'm too empathic and invest myself TOO much in the characters on the screen. which bites you in the ass when you're supposed to be laughing at the character on the screen instead of sympathizing so much that you're berating him for being a retarded fool.

Damn but I really want to go watch an S&S or thirties movie right now. especially since I've been AWOL from both for a while now. stupid 3000 word research paper...


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Old 04-26-2003, 04:05 PM   #302 of 3706
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OK, here's the list of what I've seen on the S&S list that I'd personally classify as a masterpiece (basically in order of the list, except possibly for Godfather 2 which is on the list 3 times).


Citizen Kane
Vertigo
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Godfather Part II
Singin' in the Rain
The Godfather
Dr. Strangelove
Psycho
Some Like It Hot
City Lights
The Apartment
The Seventh Seal
Casablanca
Chinatown
The Third Man
Metropolis
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Modern Times
North by Northwest
Blade Runner
The Gold Rush
Rear Window
A Clockwork Orange
GoodFellas
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Double Indemnity
It's a Wonderful Life
My Darling Clementine
Notorious
Duck Soup
Marnie
Rome, Open City
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial
Jaws
Kind Hearts and Coronets
M. Hulot's Holiday
Meet Me in St. Louis
Out of the Past
Playtime
Spartacus
Star Wars
Sullivan's Travels
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Great Dictator
The Palm Beach Story
To Have and Have Not
Trouble in Paradise
Unforgiven
The African Queen
Bride of Frankenstein
Bringing Up Baby
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
The Lady Vanishes
The Maltese Falcon
Odd Man Out
Rosemary's Baby
Schindler's List
Strangers on a Train
To Be or Not to Be
White Heat



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Old 04-26-2003, 04:44 PM   #303 of 3706
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I get TOO into the movie and get very upset when the protagonist is incredibly 'dumb' and doesn't stop making retarded decision on top of decision that just makes things worse and worse.

that is exactly my problem. but i can only sometimes say to myself "this is only a movie and take it for what it's worth" and actually watch it without critiquing it (to fit my ideals).



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Old 04-27-2003, 12:15 AM   #304 of 3706
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Old 04-27-2003, 01:21 AM   #305 of 3706
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Old 04-27-2003, 02:04 AM   #306 of 3706
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Old 04-27-2003, 02:25 AM   #307 of 3706
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Actually I probably agree with you, Arman, a lot more than I do with George when it comes to world cinema.

Just off your last post I'd agree with Yi Yi, Obscure Object, Fanny & Alexander and Shane (though I really should watch Shane again cause it's been 13-15 years since I saw it, while 90% of the S&S films I've seen have been in the last 2). I haven't seen L'Argent. Rio Bravo would be my only disagreement as I'd put it in the B+ - A- range.



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Old 04-27-2003, 07:27 AM   #308 of 3706
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Well a lot of the foreign language films I haven't seen (or in lots of cases saw too long ago). The following are ones that I've seen recently enough to have clear enough recollections to form valid opinions, and I'll put them into two categories ("good, but not a masterpiece in my opinion" and "not my cup of tea" )

Good, but not a masterpiece in my opinion:
La Règle du jeu (Rules of the Game)
8 1/2
Seven Samurai
Battleship Potemkin
Bicycle Thieves
La dolce vita
The 400 Blows
La Strada
Nosferatu
Umberto D.
Ashes and Diamonds


Not my cup of tea:
Jules and Jim
Grand Illusion
Cries and Whispers
La Belle et la Bête

Of course there's lot of English language films that fall into one of those two categories for me also.



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Old 04-27-2003, 02:21 PM   #309 of 3706
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Well, I have just signed up for the challenge (and to the HTF boards, too) and I decided that I would just start at square one. I have seen about 50 of the films on the list already but I figured, what the heck, I'll start over. So I am officially at one by watching The Hidden Fortress for the first time last night. I'd give it an A, with the only mark going against it for the sometimes big leap in the time frame. But I would say that this being my first Kurosawa, it was a great introduction. Next up: Todo Sobre Mi Madre and Casablanca, one which I have seen and the other not. I'll let you guess which is which.





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The HTF 100 Great Films of the 30\'s: 1 seen. Last Film(s): After the Thin Man(A)

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Laughs: 98 to go - Last seen: Arthur(A-)
Thrills: 94 to go - Last seen: Close Encounters of a Third Kind(B)
Passions: 96 to go - Last seen: Casablanca (A+)
Heroes/Villains: 95 to go - Last seen: Atticus Finch in To Kill A Mockingbird(A+)
Stars: 245 to go - Last seen: Gregory Peck in To Kill A Mockingbird(A+)

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Old 04-27-2003, 10:43 PM   #310 of 3706
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I just watched Rashomon(A+) last night. I thought it was pretty good up until the final scene. The final scene is just brilliant and made the film absolutely wonderful.



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Old 04-27-2003, 11:32 PM   #311 of 3706
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I just watched Rashomon (C) last night. I thought it was ok throughout, but it was nothing special. I do know that there was something special about kurosawa. The last 'witness' scene of the movie i think really was intense and i could sense kurosawa's greatness. Seven Samurai is one of my all-time favorites but some things about akira's films i just don't like, i don't want to get into them because i know i will just hear rants so...
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Old 04-28-2003, 03:19 AM   #312 of 3706
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Please don't feel like anything I've said should stifle discussion. If it doesn't add anything for me to say, "I disagree, my opinion is xxxx", then I'll just stick to writing about what I've watched.

Truly my only intent is to attempt to clumsily explain why certain movies that have gotten a less enthusiastic reaction from viewers here, deserve their place on the S&S list. I'm just very passionate about a lot of these films and tend to go overboard.



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2002 Sight & Sound Challenge: 312 Last Watched: The Life of Oharu

Last 10 Films Watched:
Ace in the Hole - B+ / Tokyo Twilight - B
Early Spring - B+ / Witness for the Prosecution - B
There Was a Father - A- / The Battle of the River Plate - B
In Bruges - B / My Blueberry Nights - C+
WALL*E - A- / Presto - B+


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