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Old 10-10-2004, 11:03 AM   #1 of 18
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I've completed the screen for my FP/PJ HT.

I didn't save all my receipts, but total cost (not including time, obviously) was about $120, give or take $10. A comparably-sized, commercially purchased screen can easily run $500 or more. My screen is 95% as good as theirs for 1/5th the price.

I constructed what's called a "Blackout Cloth Screen" (BOC). No, not Blue Oyster Cult.

BOC is used to line light-blocking drapes. There's always one bright side and it has the ideal quality of reflecting light right back out where it came from. Perfect for projecting onto! BOC can be purchased at any fabric/craft store. (Joann's/Hancock Fabric/etc)

After figuring what size screen I needed (44" x 78" for a 16:9 screen), I purchased the materials.

The screen is constructed from 1" x 3" pine boards purchased from Home Depot. The frame around the screen is made of the same boards and covered in black felt.

I was going to use the construction method on this page, but a skilled woodworker buddy suggested using "lap joints." I'm lucky to have access to a woodshop w/lots of good tools, so that's what I did.


Here's what lap joints look like

Photo 1


Here's how they fit together

Photo 2

Here's the dado cut in the middle of the horizontal spars for the brace (you have to brace the frame, else it'll bow/bend when you stretch the BOC cloth over it)

Photo 3

The frame is held together w/wood glue and 3/4" brad nails

Photo 4

Finished frame (the middle support is recessed in b/c I didn't want it touching the screen, but that didn't work out too well - the other side of the frame was used against the cloth)

Photo 5

Blackout cloth laid on top of a sheet so the cloth doesn't get dirty/damaged

Photo 6

Frame on top of BOC (I wound up flipping the frame over, i.e. the side you're looking at in this pic wound up against the BOC)

Photo 7


I stretched and stapled the BOC according to the instructions here and here

Finished screen! (Your fingers will be falling off and an electric staple gun is HIGHLY recommended!)

Photo 8


Now it was time to make the black border. The boarder is optional, but the black frame really raises the perceived black levels on the screen. The frame is just 1" x 3"s sized to fit around the 44x78 screen and cut at 45-degree angles. Black felt (from fabric store) is cut and stapled around the pieces.

The frame pieces are laid around the screen, fitted up, then I used flat L-brackets to bolt the frame pieces together, then I used 3-inch flat iron pieces to join the frame to the screen.

L-bracketed frame

Photo 9

L-bracketed and ready to be joined to screen

Photo 10

Not real pretty from behind

Photo 11


But oh, is it worth the work!!!!

Photo 12


Photo 13

(Admin note = photos turned into links due to file size.)



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Old 10-10-2004, 07:56 PM   #2 of 18
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Nice job!
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Old 10-10-2004, 08:58 PM   #3 of 18
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It looks great.
But how does it look with your pj projecting on it?
And how does it compare to what you were using before?
Screen shots? My appologies to those who thing there are already too many pictures in this thread.
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Old 10-11-2004, 02:12 AM   #4 of 18
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Not to rain on the parade, but raw blackout is rather mediocre. Slap on 2-3 coats of a high quality matte white gesso and then you will have a ~1.2 gain screen that matches any similar gain screen available for sale.
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Old 10-11-2004, 09:18 AM   #5 of 18
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Nice looking screen Michael.

When I get a projector I want to try out the DIY Light Fusion screen. You put a few coats of a slightly translucent paint mix on a very thin 1/8th" plexiglass mirror.
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Old 10-11-2004, 09:42 AM   #6 of 18
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Thanks for the compliments; I worked very hard on it. A few notes.

I'm aware that Joann's Fabric Blackout Cloth is not exactly the same material used in a Stewart Firehawk screen. That material alone would also have cost me about $300, so I'd say it's a fair tradeoff! Plus, this was the first time making a screen. I didn't know how much tension to put on the fabric while stretching it. Would it rip or tear? If the BOC tears, it's $25 mistake. If the "good stuff" tears, it's me in tears. Get it? "Tears" vs. "tears?" I crack me up.


I've no intention of painting it b/c:

1. If I mess it up, the screen's trash and it took me too long to build it...not doing it again anytime soon

2. From what I've read, coming up with the "correct" paint color is one part science, one part wizardry and on part dumb luck...I'm not a gambling man. There are about 1,000 threads on "screen paint color" over at AVSForum.com and very few agree with each other. It's a testing process dependent on your projector/room/planetary rotation. Nope, no paint for me.

2a. The frame is already on it, it's mounted, etc. Painting would involve taking down the screen, disassembling it, then finding somewhere in my apt or garage to paint it and let it dry for a week and hope no dirt/dust gets on it...nope, not painting it



I haven't calibrated the PJ yet b/c my HT gear isn't hooked up yet (doing that today). But I connected the DVD player directly to the PJ to do some initial PJ setup.

WOW. Just wow. Even uncalibrated right out of the box it's gorgeous. Contrast/Brightness need some tweaking, but that's to be expected. It looks WORLDS better than the 8-year-old Sony Trinitron it replaced (32") More on picture quality improvement in a second...but just going from a 32" diagonal 4:3 to a 87" diagonal 16:9 picture is quite the step up.

I watched about 30 minutes of Bulletproof Monk and 30 minutes of finding Nemo. It sucked without sound! In the fast action of BPM, I saw no RBE (rainbow effect) at all. A great sign. Image quality was very good. I noticed that the black level needed tweaking, but I'll take care of that when I calibrate.

Finding Nemo really opened my eyes. I noticed details that I never saw before, and I've seen this movie about 5x already. The textures on the fish's skin, little tiny "spots" floating around in the ocean...twinkly little lights and such. Didn't see those on the Sony CRT...maybe they were there, but it was so small I couldn't see them!!!

Here's a pic of it mounted on the wall. The sneaker is on the shelf just for size reference. That's a size 11.5, BTW. Oh, the center channel will go on that shelf, in case you were wondering.




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Old 10-11-2004, 06:24 PM   #7 of 18
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FYI, most of the construction photos are now linkified due to large file size of the photos. Let's be more tolerant towards one another, especially those on slow connections.



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Old 10-11-2004, 11:53 PM   #8 of 18
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Folks, please move on to something more contructive.



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Old 10-12-2004, 06:54 AM   #9 of 18
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A few observations..

1. Nice screen, room looks like it's shaping up nicely too.
2. I like posts with the pics right in them also, it shows you care how your post is seen and took the trouble to host the pics somewhere instead of just sticking in a bunch of links.
3. Front projection rules.
4. It's center speaker, not sneaker. I would have thought you'd get stuck when trying to wire it, no?
5. I might gesso my screen. That sounds like the extra little pop I'm looking for. What's a good brand?
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Old 10-12-2004, 01:50 PM   #10 of 18
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Thank you, Vince Bray.

Yesterday, I got it all wired up, recalibrated the sound and watched my first movie. It looked and sounded awesome! Haven't calibrated the PJ yet, as I'm waiting on a 50-foot set of component cables; they should be here this week. Right now I'm using an S-video cable strung over the couch, table and the equipment rack.

Oh, BTW:

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It's center speaker, not sneaker. I would have thought you'd get stuck when trying to wire it, no?

LMAO! Yeah, I just couldn't fit the banana plugs into the eyelets on my center channel sneaker.



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Old 10-12-2004, 07:40 PM   #11 of 18
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Obviously "move on" isn't getting through to some of the folks posting in this thread. Let's make it clear, anymore moaning and groaning for either side of the bandwidth debate is going to result in a time-out. I've cleaned up the thread as much as I could to retain the original subject of discussion. Let's keep this thread about Michael's DIY projection screen.



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