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Old 01-16-2004, 08:18 PM   #1 of 12
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Passive radiator vs. Vented


I modeled 1 AV-15 with both passive radiators and as a vented box. At 5 cubic feed, the output is almost identical. But, what's the difference SQ wise?

O, and do you think a 5 cubic foot sealed Av-15 would be sufficient for most movie sound tracks (assuming I don't want to break windows)?



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Old 01-16-2004, 11:54 PM   #2 of 12
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Av-15 would be sufficient for most movie sound tracks


How big is your room? I have an AV12 in a 14'x20' room and it is more than enough to rattle pictures off the wall.
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Old 01-17-2004, 01:08 AM   #3 of 12
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there shouldn't be too much difference in SQ. the PR sub might have a little bit better transient response. mainly, PR are great for small boxes as a low tuned vented box can require more room for a vent than available, and most people don't want their port sticking a foot out of their enclosure. if you're box is big enough, vented is waaaay cheaper.

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Old 01-17-2004, 01:19 AM   #4 of 12
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PR's also eliminate the risk of any port noise... so they do have a slight SQ advantage. But then again, as already mentioned, the main benefit is providing low tuning in a small enclosure.
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:35 AM   #5 of 12
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The transient response of a PR sub is measureably inferior to the "same" alignment using ports. You've got to have better ears than mine (and a better room) to hear it, though. The advantage is that you can have adequate resonator Vd in a small box.
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Old 01-17-2004, 09:38 AM   #6 of 12
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How big is your room? I have an AV12 in a 14'x20' room and it is more than enough to rattle pictures off the wall.


The room I would be using is about 18X12. It's open on one side. I was thinking of using 2 subs because I read a paper somewhere that said 2 subs or more can can help nullify "bad" nodes and excite the "good" ones.



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Old 01-17-2004, 09:40 AM   #7 of 12
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Thanks for the info on PRs. I was really just curious as to each would sound. I don't have money for 4 100 dollar PRs for 2 AV-15 subs. So, it's gonna be either sealed or ported. And it'll probably be sealed, as this will be a 2 channel system. I don't have money for a multichannel theater right now.



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Old 01-17-2004, 10:13 AM   #8 of 12
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why not ported, you need the small enclosure?



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Old 01-17-2004, 10:16 AM   #9 of 12
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Well, no, but sealed enclosures are condusive to "tighter" bass, correct?

It's been a while since I've discussed or thought about DIY audio



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Old 01-20-2004, 11:10 PM   #10 of 12
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I did a AV15 in a 24" cube for Craig WoodhallCraigs ported AV15
As far as I know he is very happy with it.


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Old 01-21-2004, 05:16 AM   #11 of 12
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