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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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Not a problem.....thanks for the 
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07-20-2008, 10:14 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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Hey pal, you did the "eyeroll" thing FIRST. Read below from last page...
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Dunno, I just can't get all worked up over jpeg screengrabs, digital camera still shots of paused displays or the usual chorus of noise from a bunch of AVS screengrab worshipers who haven't even sampled the disc themselves. Sorry if this comes across as snarky but basing ones final judgment on a still-shot posted by someone else on an internet messageboard seems a bit idiotic to me.
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07-20-2008, 10:18 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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Screenshots maybe not perfect, but so far many of them have correctly identified the more notorius DNR releases.
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07-20-2008, 11:59 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
Yep. You've resorted to screaming and name calling (actually, you began with name calling).
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07-21-2008, 03:25 AM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
If given a choice between the version that was digitally broadcast, or the BluRay version which has a bit of edge enhancement... I'd have to say the BluRay version looks better. Yes, there is a little bit of edge enhancement, but, it also has more detail than the broadcast does -- look at the hairs on Hurt's head, or the texture in his skin, etc. Or look at Riff Raff's eyeballs when he's standing on the side of the pool. All of this looks better on the BluRay.
Perfect? No. Darn close? Yep.
I was surprised the digital broadcast version was open matte (but still widescreen). I wonder if the special effects scenes were also made that way.
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07-21-2008, 04:02 AM
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Jesus Harry Christ O'Mighty! I can't argue anymore with someone who doesn't understand the meaning of the word "accurate".
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07-21-2008, 07:30 AM
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You haven't said a single thing to disprove the usefulness of screen grabs.
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Wasn't trying to "disprove" someone elses usefulness of screengrabs, which would be akin to trying to convert ones religion. I did say that I thought basing ones final judgment on a screengrab without viewing the disc themselves was idiotic. Still do, sorry if that bothers some people but there it is.
Sure screengrabs can point out flaws like the "cropped" EE example on page 3. Would it be as noticeable in full motion to everyone on every display out there? maybe, maybe not. Will I notice it on mine? very probably now that's it's been pointed out and I'll consciously or subconsciously look for it. Would I notice any other EE present on the disc without it being pointed out to me? maybe, maybe not. I'll find out when I view it.
Do I like the fact that's there's apparently EE on one shot at least? Of course not, but I'm sure to be demonized as one of the "it's good enough" crowd anyway.
and to say that me viewing these still screengrabs on my crappy 19" flat panel computer monitor is an accurate reflection of what I'd see in full motion on my 70" 1080P display, or someone else's 100"+ screen, or the next persons 50" 720P display, etc, etc, is complete and utter nonsense.
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07-21-2008, 08:29 AM
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Sure screengrabs can point out flaws like the "cropped" EE example on page 3.
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07-21-2008, 10:26 AM
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I was surprised the digital broadcast version was open matte (but still widescreen). I wonder if the special effects scenes were also made that way.
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'made that way', but the thread on AVS reports that the special effects scenes are cropped as a result of the open matte HDTV presentation, so I'd lean toward answering no. Regardless, I agree with your assertion that between the SD DVD, the HDTV broadcast, and the BD, the BD is the 'lesser of three evils'.
However, that really feeds into my prior point about the seeming lack of suitable masters. For a lot of these releases, people are going to have to judge very carefully for themselves via whatever means they are comfortable with whether a release is worth it or not. I certainly don't begrudge anyone wanting to use screen shots as a means of doing so, as long as they understand there are some limitations that they can't overcome (e.g. motion). However, the argument that you can't adequately judge a release until you've seen it, while perhaps correct, really isn't practical. Many people do not have either the time or money to buy/rent and watch every release they're interested in order to determine a transfers 'worthiness'.
It would certainly be nice if we didn't have to, but we are clearly not there yet with Blu-ray Disc and may never be. After all, we never got there with DVD either. |
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