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07-19-2008, 05:42 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
Perhaps it's a bit premature to describe this transfer as a failed effort. Screen grabs are notoriously unreliable.
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07-19-2008, 05:58 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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Perhaps it's a bit premature to describe this transfer as a failed effort. Screen grabs are notoriously unreliable.
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I agree. Also, the size of the screen needs to be mentioned.
If this movie does have DNR or missing high frequency information, I hope the HTF will allow the posting of such information and not censor the posts.
Already on blu-ray.com's "insider" thread, Michel_Hafner's July 19, 2008 12:16:24 PM PDT post has been removed.
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Hope ........................, Pentonman. Meanwhile the butchering of 'older' films with EE and DNR goes on. Latest example: Dark City.
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Would this kind of comment be removed here?
Paul
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07-19-2008, 06:10 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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Would this kind of comment be removed here?
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Only if it was not backed up by reasoned discussion of the qualities that led the poster to his or her opinion. I.e., HTF doesn't tolerate bching or baiting, but it does allow discussion.
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07-19-2008, 06:38 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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Perhaps it's a bit premature to describe this transfer as a failed effort. Screen grabs are notoriously unreliable.
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These days it's better to wait for comments from people who have seen the transfer, are FULLY aware of the DNR/EE issue and what it looks like, AND have the large screen high end equipment to show such problems. I would say DVD Beaver doesn't meet the criteria. |
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07-19-2008, 06:53 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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I would say DVD Beaver doesn't meet the criteria.
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Whatever makes you say that? The DVD Beaver review does not make any mention whatsoever about EE or excessive DNR or whether it was applied at all, to excess or not at all... |
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07-19-2008, 06:57 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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Originally Posted by Paul Hillenbrand
I agree. Also, the size of the screen needs to be mentioned.
If this movie does have DNR or missing high frequency information, I hope the HTF will allow the posting of such information and not censor the posts.
Already on blu-ray.com's "insider" thread, Michel_Hafner's July 19, 2008 12:16:24 PM PDT post has been removed.
Would this kind of comment be removed here?
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I saw his comment was removed too. This is getting disturbing. |
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07-19-2008, 07:04 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
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I would say DVD Beaver doesn't meet the criteria.
Whatever makes you say that? The DVD Beaver review does not make any mention whatsoever about EE or excessive DNR or whether it was applied at all, to excess or not at all...
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I'm saying that the DVD Beaver site doesn't show the same awareness of the issue that other people do. |
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07-19-2008, 07:13 PM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
closest Beaver gets to mentioning anything was,...
"Viewers with higher-end systems may also note how limited the digital noise [is] in the Blu-ray. The old single-layered SD was fraught with these artifacts as there are so many dark, low lit, scenes in the film."
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07-20-2008, 01:17 AM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
From AVS, for what it's worth. Mouseovers show direct comparisons between broadcast 1080i and the BD...
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Excellent comparison House, just the reason I love this forum.
A few mouseovers (the repositioned BD shots might look darker than they should in IE):
2 - 1080i vs BD repositioned
4 - 1080i vs BD repositioned
5 - 1080i vs BD repositioned
Seems the overall lack of detail is down to the master, but the BD adds color+contrast tweaking, DNR, and EE. Look at the wall screen-left of the guy in 4 (can't recall names at the moment). Surely VC-1 should replicate this better than the MPEG-2, and it does in many places. But there are some tiles clearly intact on the 1080i that are destroyed on the BD. |
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07-20-2008, 01:35 AM
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Re: "Dark City: Director's Cut" coming to Blu-ray on July 29
can you provide a direct link to that post.
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