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02-22-2008, 10:55 AM
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Jari
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Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
Since HD DVD is now gone and VC-1 was often their choice of codec, does this change with Blu-ray?
I mean were there any "deals" between Microsoft and the HD DVD-companies, so that only "HD DVD companies" can use VC-1 or something like that?
I donīt want to start any "codec war/debate" here (so please donīt post any "VC-1 is da best ever codec boyeee!"-stuff..  ), just wondering that are we going to see less VC-1 and more MPEG-4 AVC with Blu-ray, or is it that e.g. Paramount and Warner will keep using VC-1 like "business as usual"..
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02-22-2008, 11:02 AM
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
Since VC-1 is supported on Bd, I fully expect those companies that have developed expertise with that codec will continue to employ it on future Bd releases. Why would they throw away that experience and 'start over' with AVC?
No company is going to throw away a tool set that works perfectly fine unless there are some overriding technical or financial circumstances that compel that choice.
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02-22-2008, 11:22 AM
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
PCM and MPEG-2 on Single layer Bluray for the win!
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02-22-2008, 11:32 AM
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
I thought it was mainly Warner that stuck with VC-1 encodes?
Either way, I highly encoded VC-1 encoded disc taking advantage of a BD50 is going to look damn good.
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02-22-2008, 11:55 AM
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
This recent article covers some of what's being discussed here.
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What the Death of HD-DVD Means.
HD-DVD is dead, and with it dies Microsoft’s aspirations to inject its proprietary software in media development. This is also a big strike against VC-1; despite being written into the Blu-Ray standard along with the ISO’s H.264, most Blu-Ray developers are moving toward H.264, which not only allows them to master HD discs, but also deliver mobile and downloadable versions using the same codec for playback on devices such as the PSP and iPod.
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02-22-2008, 12:06 PM
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Jari
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
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I thought it was mainly Warner that stuck with VC-1 encodes?
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Universal has used VC-1 probably in all of their releases. Now they got even more capacity for their future releases.
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*Nintendo Wii (Euro)
*Yamaha RX-V1800 (HDMI 1.3)
*Xbox 360 Elite (HDMI)
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02-22-2008, 12:25 PM
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
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02-22-2008, 01:03 PM
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
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Universal has used VC-1 probably in all of their releases. Now they got even more capacity for their future releases.
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I know of only one Universal title to use AVC and that was The Interpreter.
I would imagine that Warner would keep using VC-1. I don't know any reason why they should switch.
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02-22-2008, 01:12 PM
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
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I know of only one Universal title to use AVC and that was The Interpreter.
I would imagine that Warner would keep using VC-1. I don't know any reason why they should switch.
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Unless it's somehow part of their big deal w/ Sony/BDA? Also, if it's true that AVC makes it easier for them to provide scaled down content for PSP and iPod, then that's one more reason for them to go that way, no? No idea if they really care about the PSP and iPod of course....
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02-22-2008, 01:15 PM
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Douglas Monce
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
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Unless it's somehow part of their big deal w/ Sony/BDA? Also, if it's true that AVC makes it easier for them to provide scaled down content for PSP and iPod, then that's one more reason for them to go that way, no? No idea if they really care about the PSP and iPod of course....
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That is surely a cool idea, but I don't know why you couldn't do that with VC-1 also. After all its just a variation on Windows Media, and WMA/WMV are more widely used than MP4.
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02-22-2008, 01:40 PM
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Re: Blu-ray and VC-1 ?
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That is surely a cool idea, but I don't know why you couldn't do that with VC-1 also. After all its just a variation on Windows Media, and WMA/WMV are more widely used than MP4.
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