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[ **Official HTF HD Formats Ind./Retailer/Studio Support Thread-*SEE POST 3176, p. 106* ]

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Old 08-20-2007, 01:46 PM   #121 of 3878
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Re: *** Official HTF HD Formats Industry/Retailer/Studio Support Thread


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So now the question is, which of my players is going to be a $500 brick?
Neither - plenty of good movies to play on each.
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:46 PM   #122 of 3878
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Congrats to all of the companies on both sides for this incredible clusterfuck.

Well said.
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:54 PM   #123 of 3878
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Re: *** Official HTF HD Formats Industry/Retailer/Studio Support Thread


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Anybody else thinking that this pretty much seals the deal for both formats remaining niche products?

This was pretty much my first reaction too. I own both formats but until this announcement there was a sense of the balance tending to tip one particular side.

I understand all is fair in love and war, but I've a horrible feeling we'll all be sat here this time next year lamenting sell through HD media being no more popular than it is now amongst the public at large. I'd be happy if HD discs filled the same niche that laserdisc occupied, but I'm not sure the studios will be financially happy in continuing to sell only the quantaties of discs they're currently selling. The words SACD and DVD audio are springing to mind once again.

Amazing, just amazing.
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:54 PM   #124 of 3878
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Indications are that Toshiba has paid Paramount 50 Million for the exclusive agreement.

On the AVS Forum, the total is placed at $150 million -- $50 million to Paramount, $100 million to Dreamworks. But we'll never know unless the government opens an investigation. That kind of money, even if given for "promotion of HD-DVD" sounds a lot like a bribe to stop supporting BluRay to me.

I don't want this war decided by government bugging of the Paramount executives. But it looks inevitable, now.



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Old 08-20-2007, 02:05 PM   #125 of 3878
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Well, there goes Transformers/Face Off/Top Gun/Shrek the Third.

Face Off is a Disney title in the UK, and will be released on Blu-ray here in October.



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Old 08-20-2007, 02:06 PM   #126 of 3878
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Yep. And as mass adoption never happens, MS cleans up with HD downloads and streaming in a couple of years.

End result in the format war, both sides lost.
We were so close, one studio away from ONE format and now MS pulls this crap for a format they really don't give a damn about. They just want to have a stalemate. J6P thinks, "Screw this. I'm not buying TWO new players, DVD is good enough for me..."

Anyone who wants good quality, high bitrate HD physical media are now going to be a "niche" consumer. Just like with DVD-a and SACD. Who won there? The ipod.
Evereone says, "So What? Get both Players! Be format neutral!" Yeah, except without mass adoption, many smaller or older films will probably NEVER make it into EITHER format.



Gotta hand it to MS, they know what they're doing.


Remember this...?

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/09/t...l-gates-again/


"First off, I wanted to talk about some of the stuff you talked about your keynote, specifically Vongo, which is going to be the first of what I presume will be several online video subscription services that will be announced in the next few months. It's similar to the ToGo services that are available already for music, but do you think that online video download subscriptions have a greater chance of being successful than the rental model has so far been for music? Are customers already used to the idea of renting movies, but it's taking them some time to getting used to the idea of renting music?

GATES...

Yeah, I mean, movies are a bit different in the sense that it's often that you'll want to see it once, and then having it in a library wouldn't be that critical to you, whereas with music you're going to want to listen to it many, many times. In fact, you can hear it once on the radio and get that sample, so it's the ongoing use that's the real value there..."

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051017-5445.html

"For us it's not the physical format. Understand that this is the last physical format there will ever be. Everything's going to be streamed directly or on a hard disk. So, in this way, it's even unclear how much this one counts.

Will HD DVD or Blu-ray be the last physical format? You could certainly make a strong case for that..."


Some of us saw this coming months ago. Looks like we were right.




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Old 08-20-2007, 02:09 PM   #127 of 3878
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Re: *** Official HTF HD Formats Industry/Retailer/Studio Support Thread


Looks like I won't be going to see Indy 4 next year now. meh.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:11 PM   #128 of 3878
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Re: *** Official HTF HD Formats Industry/Retailer/Studio Support Thread


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Looks like I won't be going to see Indy 4 next year now. meh.

Apparently the deal doesn't include any Spielberg movies.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:12 PM   #129 of 3878
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Spielberg will still be both formats.


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Old 08-20-2007, 02:16 PM   #130 of 3878
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Re: *** Official HTF HD Formats Industry/Retailer/Studio Support Thread


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Apparently the deal doesn't include any Spielberg movies.

Yeah. I just read this:

"Today's announcement does not include films directed by Steven Spielberg as his films are not exclusive to either format."

Interesting as 'CE3K' effectively is exclusive to BD. Hmm...well I might go see Indy 4. But it would still be supporting Paramount.

And as far as losing out on 'Blades of Glory', 'Shrek 3', and 'Transformers' on BD, I won't be losing any sleep over not adding those titles to my collection.

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