First Blood, French HD-DVD release

MattFini · 06-23-2007, 02:57 PM

Has anybody picked this, or the other two Rambo movies up yet?

Xploited has all three, and I've been thinking about getting the trilogy for sometime now, but I was hoping to get some opinions on them before I do.

I like the packages too...cool to see the painted artwork on the covers in this day and age of Photoshopped garbage.

Yumbo · 06-23-2007, 04:32 PM

Yes, it's decent. Will get other 2 later.

Jeff Adkins · 06-24-2007, 09:12 PM

The transfer is reportedly very good. The only reason I would pass it and get the BD is because it has the audio pitch problem. Some people don't notice it though, so you might want to download the MP3 clips that are posted over at AVS and see if it matters to you or not.

Cees Alons · 06-25-2007, 03:47 AM

Jeff,

There's really something funny going on there. As discussed here before: it's hardly possible in practice that HD DVDs would have a "pitch problem".

The studio would have to do it almost on purpose (or be extremely stupid) to make it so.
I haven't noticed it (and I can hear it very clearly if it is present) on any of the releases I bought from France and the UK myself. Nor did any of the posters here (with 1 possible exception).

Cees

Jeff Adkins · 06-25-2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cees Alons

Jeff,

There's really something funny going on there. As discussed here before: it's hardly possible in practice that HD DVDs would have a "pitch problem".

It's not an HD-DVD problem at all...it's a Studio Canal problem. Only the Studio Canal titles have this issue, none of the other European releases have any pitch issues. I'm sure if Studio Canal were to release a BD of Basic Instinct, it would have the same problem.

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The studio would have to do it almost on purpose (or be extremely stupid) to make it so.

It would probably be better to have someone who is more knowledgable than me explain the reason it happens. All I know is it has something to do with the European audio masters being 25fps and during the conversion the higher pitch is retained.

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I haven't noticed it (and I can hear it very clearly if it is present) on any of the releases I bought from France and the UK myself. Nor did any of the posters here (with 1 possible exception).

I would guess that growing up with PAL, it wouldn't be an issue for you. I wish it didn't bother me. I'm dying to get that Total Recall HD-DVD!

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I borrorwed a copy of The Graduate from a friend and noticed it immediately. I got out my DVD and compared them and the difference was very noticeable. Believe me, I'm not making this stuff up, Cees. There's samples you can download if you don't believe me. Every Studio Canal title with the exception of T2 and Brotherhood Of The Wolf has this problem.

Having said all that, I should point out again that most people probably won't notice it at all.

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Jeremy Little · 06-26-2007, 12:24 AM

I can confirm that these Studio Canal titles have the issue. Some people notice it, some don't. Either way, it is there.

It sounds like the audio masters were the 25fps PAL format tapes, and when they prepared the HD DVD format it was digitally stretched while preserving pitch. It's probably the only possible way that could have occurred.

Cees Alons · 06-26-2007, 03:40 AM

One question.

My TV has a possible setting of 1920x1080@50Hz. Does your TV or projector have that too? Or is 60Hz the only option?

Cees

ppltd · 06-26-2007, 09:37 AM

I own all three Rambo Studio Canal releases. I notice no audio issues on one and two, but on three, there is a problem.

dkny75 · 06-26-2007, 11:40 AM

I own the Austrailian version of Rambo 1-3 and for me I heard the pitch problem on 1.

ppltd · 06-26-2007, 11:44 AM

I should clarify. Just because I did not hear a pitch problem, doesn't mean it does not exist on these disks. With so many posts stating it does tells me that it does and I just didn't notice it. I suppose now, when I rewatch the movie(s) it will be noticable to me.