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06-01-2007, 03:35 PM
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Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray!?
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Originally Posted by DVDTalk Staff Reviewer
I watched the full Extended Cut last night and did a quick comparison to the Blu-ray. The HD DVD is decidedly sharper and has more saturated colors. It's not perfect, unfortunately. It has some of the same problems as the BD, including a touch of edge ringing, some white clipping, and minor compression problems here and there. It looks good overall. I'll try to crank out a full review soon.
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The French 2-disc HD DVD set (Theatrical + Extended Edition) is currently available from amazon.fr and xploitedcinema.com if you want it NOW. 
A slightly more English-friendly UK single disc Extended Edition-only HD DVD will be available for preorder within a month or so from http://amazon.co.uk
Note that only the Extended Edition disc from the French version is English-friendly, as the theatrical version has forced French subtitles when selecting the English soundtrack (you can resize them and move them into the LBX bar however). The Extended edition does not have forced subtitles and in fact the entire menu is in English, it was clearly the same disc that will be in the UK version released later.
The UK version will be identical to disc 2 of the French version - Extended cut, English audio, no forced subs, region free, 1080p24 w/ lossless DTS-HD Master Audio. English Audio tracks have been compared to the R1 DVD release and the audio is perfect, no speedup.
I am waiting for the region-free UK version since I want the English cover art and the Extended Cut is better anyway IMO. Plus, the theatrical disc of the French version is pretty worthless to me with the forced subs (even if tiny). I'll of course post when the AMAZON.CO.UK preorder for T2: Extended Edition is available
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06-01-2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: DVDTalk: Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray
But I wouldn't be surprised when the price of the UK version (£-price) is not as good as the price of the 2-disc French version (€-price). I mean: not substantially less.
(I understand, though, that you may be less interested in the first disc, the theatrical version, in which case you wouldn't be prepared to compare the prices as if between a 1-disc version and a 2-disc version).
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06-01-2007, 04:16 PM
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Re: DVDTalk: Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray
So, pumping up the color and sharpness makes it better?
There's a whole thread discussing Zyber's setup...he only has a older 720p projector.
He is also not the most balanced when it comes to HD DVD vs. BD. It would be like me reviewing it and declaring the BD better without question.
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06-01-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: DVDTalk: Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray
I own both now - but unfortunately I (still) don't own a BD-player yet - so I cannot be of any help here.
(And I won't simply add my opinion of the French T2 to this discussion. )
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06-01-2007, 05:23 PM
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Re: DVDTalk: Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray
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So, pumping up the color and sharpness makes it better?
There's a whole thread discussing Zyber's setup...he only has a older 720p projector.
He is also not the most balanced when it comes to HD DVD vs. BD. It would be like me reviewing it and declaring the BD better without question.
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There's more than one person over there that seems to think the HD-DVD is better than the BD.
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06-01-2007, 05:33 PM
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Re: DVDTalk: Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray
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I am waiting for the region-free UK version since I want the English cover art and the Extended Cut is better anyway IMO. Plus, the theatrical disc of the French version is pretty worthless to me with the forced subs (even if tiny). I'll of course post when the AMAZON.CO.UK preorder for T2: Extended Edition is available |
As much as I would like this release now to replace my BD copy, I can wait for a few months for the UK version to be released.
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06-01-2007, 08:46 PM
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Re: DVDTalk: Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray
As of this afternoon, I have both the BD and the new Studio Canal HD DVD. I'll have more to say on this later tonight or tomorrow, but the short and sweet is the Studio Canal transfer/VC-1 encode of the extended version is very obviously (to me) superior to the Lionsgate BD. I also find the transfer of the extended version superior to the transfer of the theatrical version that Studio Canal used.
If you are a fan of the extended version of Terminator 2, the Studio Canal import HD DVD gets a huge thumbs up from me.
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06-01-2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: DVDTalk: Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray
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As of this afternoon, I have both the BD and the new Studio Canal HD DVD. I'll have more to say on this later tonight or tomorrow, but the short and sweet is the Studio Canal transfer/VC-1 encode of the extended version is very obviously (to me) superior to the Lionsgate BD. I also find the transfer of the extended version superior to the transfer of the theatrical version that Studio Canal used.
If you are a fan of the extended version of Terminator 2, the Studio Canal import HD DVD gets a huge thumbs up from me.
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Looking forward to your in-depth review.
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06-02-2007, 01:18 AM
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Re: DVDTalk: Terminator 2 HD DVD beats T2 Blu-Ray
I don't doubt this at all. Lions Gate early BDs were subpar, just like Sony's were. Luckily, they've gotten better (with the exception of Dirty Dancing). Check out the comparisons of Basic Instinct vs. the Studio Canal HD-DVD.
If I were dual-format, the French HD-DVD of T2would be my choice, but I would get the BD on Basic Instinct and First Blood. I probably wouldn't buy either version of Total Recall since the BD has a shitty transfer and the HD-DVD has the dreaded audio-pitch problem.
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