Both Pirate films cracked before their HD Launch

Paul Hillenbrand · 05-21-2007, 11:36 PM

Dated 5/17/2007
AACS Fails Again.

There is confirmation that Both 'Pirates of the Caribbean' films on Blu-ray have already been cracked and are being distributed freely across the Internet.

Blu-ray news

Paul

Marc Colella · 05-22-2007, 05:35 AM

So I guess Fox won't be releasing Blu-Ray movies now? Ya know, since BD was chosen because of it's security.

Jon Moss · 05-22-2007, 09:36 AM

Although this was only to be expected. If you know where to look on the net there are HD-DVD's & Blu-ray films regularly ripped & posted. Films are even re-encoded from 1080p transfers down to 720p for reduced file size!! The mind boggles...

No matter what copy protection is introduced someone will always manage to crack it. Unfortunately, it's only going to get worse when blank 50gb Blu-ray and 30gb HD-DVD's become cheaper to purchase than the films themselves.

Give me the original HD-DVD or Blu-ray on my shelf any day

Chris S · 05-22-2007, 09:58 AM

Doing my best to follow all this DRM stuff but I believe the new AACS keys were originally retrieved/cracked from the new Matrix HD DVD release. Once again AACS LA makes a critical security error by putting the same keys on both media types.

Michel_Hafner · 05-22-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Colella

So I guess Fox won't be releasing Blu-Ray movies now? Ya know, since BD was chosen because of it's security.

BD+ is the additional security and it's not available yet. Till then it's only AACS.

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Marc Colella · 05-22-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Michel_Hafner

BD+ is the additional security and it's not available yet. Till then it's only AACS.

Then I guess Fox won't release any BD titles until BD+ is available.

Grant H · 05-22-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Colella

Then I guess Fox won't release any BD titles until BD+ is available.

It's kind of been looking that way for a while, save some day-and-date releases. It only makes sense to release them with the DVD since they'd rather you buy the more expensive BD counterparts over their DVD bretheren I would think.

At least it used to be the pirates were stuck watching their HD movies on their 17" computer monitors, but now that people can watch them on their X Box add-ons hooked up to home theater systems piracy really is becoming a threat.

Paul Hillenbrand · 05-22-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Grant H

now that people can watch them on their X Box add-ons hooked up to home theater systems piracy really is becoming a threat.

Threat? Guess I would have to be in their shoes to fully understand. IMO, I think Fox puts their faith in too many paranoid advisors. They definitely have good reason to worry, if they value a Scrooge mentality of squeezing out every cent that's legally possible.

Those that can afford Home theater systems and HD audio/video equipment, niche or not, are going to want the real, original media disc, that has a responsible studio behind it that is answerable for quality control, not a pirated copy.

Warner Bros. knows this, and like Disney was to television in the 50's & 60's, WB will be the early bird that catches the worm.

I agree with the signature statement of shodoug, in another forum: "I think that the only losers in the format war will be those who wait for a clear winner."

Rob Young · 05-22-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Grant H

At least it used to be the pirates were stuck watching their HD movies on their 17" computer monitors, but now that people can watch them on their X Box add-ons hooked up to home theater systems piracy really is becoming a threat.

Umm, they still are making good money and there are more consumers buying the stuff than d/ling/pirating it.

Sorry but I find the piracy stuff to be outright lame and is just fear mongering to get the masses to actually think it is such a huge issue when reality it isn't.

The problem that most people just TOTALLY ignore is that most who d/l stuff simply have NO DESIRE to buy the product regardless and do so simply because it is there. If you have NO PLANS to buy something then why (in a financial sense) does it matter? Companies too often assume every d/l of something is a lost sale and that annoys me to no end. I know a guy who d/ls a lot of stuff and he simply does not have much cash to buy stuff and most (ie 95%) of the stuff he d/ls is stuff he would not buy even if he had the extra cash to do so. Again, no lost revenue since he wouldn't buy the stuff in the first place. i'd guess the % of piracy that actually results in lost sales is TINY.

It'll be funny when BD+ is implemented and people crack it and people go on and on about that. I am of the opinion all these supposed security enhancements are just a waste of time/money since they all end up cracked and I am then spoonfed a line about how they and piracy are causing the prices of my software to be where it is. Sorry but that is back asswards and BS. Companies will charge us what they do for the simple reason they know they can. If they truly wanted to combat "lost sales" to piracy they'd lower the prices to give those more incentive to buy rather than d/l...but again, the % of that group is most likely tiny so they keep with the higher prices.

Matt Leigh · 05-22-2007, 03:52 PM

My problem is that anyone down loading movies/music/games whatever that they say they would never buy still gets the oppurtunity to enjoy those things without having to pay for them. That in and of itself is unfair to everyone who does pay for them.

Yumbo · 05-22-2007, 04:36 PM

Um,

Try living in a country with 98% piracy. It's the well to do who are the biggest purchasers, simply because they can and no one is stopping them.

Think globally.