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Old 06-03-2006, 11:32 PM   #1 of 19
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Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


Revenge of the Sith has been playing twice today on The Movie Network in HD in Canada in it's OAR, and I understand it also played recently on HBO. Not sure if too many here caught it or if it was in OAR HD.

What I find striking though is that compared to my own DVD, which I have watched on the same display, the image looks less real to me in the HD format.

I've been down on the film on other message boards for the film's poor overly digital appearance, and I find looking at it in higher resolution, at a resolution close to what it was natively shot in, the actors look even less a part of the CGi sets.

If anyone has played or watched an old computer game made back when full motion video was in its infancy, where real actors were used in front of computer generated sets, (but of lower quality then what can be done today) best example being 'Wing Commander III', it has that same kind of appearance. The real actors, in high detail stick out from the less detailed CGI sets.

I almost think the higher resolution has made the film weaker. Any thoughts? Is it just another symptom of the abandoning of celluloid film by Lucas and the transition to competely digital filmmaking?



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Old 06-04-2006, 02:23 AM   #2 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


In all honesty, I was hard-pressed to tell the difference between HBO HD's OAR broadcast and the upconverted disc.





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Old 06-04-2006, 09:44 PM   #3 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


I think you'll find a substantial difference in quality between cable/satellite HD feeds and prerecorded HD. OTA HD is generally better, but can also vary in quality from one region to another, and by the equipment being used.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:31 PM   #4 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


Not to mention that even cable/satellite HD feeds vary from provider to provider. I've seen comparisons screenshots from RotS from a few different cable companies, and there are some that are CLEARLY better than others. So if you thought it looked poorer in HD, it could very well just be your HD provider.

But yeah, it'll be a good deal better on a prerecorded HD format - I doubt we'd see any macroblocking, for one.
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:36 PM   #5 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


Mark,
How is your DVD player hooked up to the display?
How is the sat box hooked up?
Is the display calibrated for each input?



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Old 06-05-2006, 02:52 PM   #6 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


I have to say that the upconvert on the A1 looks stellar. I cancelled my HBO last year because their HD is a freaking JOKE!




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Old 06-05-2006, 04:38 PM   #7 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


EPISODE III is one of the SD DVD's I've watched on the HD-A1, it looked *almost* like High Def. I haven't seen the HBO broadcast yet, I'll check it out later this week when it's rebroadcast.


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Old 06-05-2006, 09:50 PM   #8 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


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Mark,
How is your DVD player hooked up to the display?
How is the sat box hooked up?
Is the display calibrated for each input?

They are both rigged up pretty much the same, and I am positive that it has nothing to do with calibration.

I suppose I did not make my issues clear enough. The actual picture quality itself wasn't weaker. Indeed I find HD to be superior in every regard, and I am definantly seeing a greater resolution here. I only find that with Star Wars and its almost gratuitous amounts of computer generated imagery behind its real actors, I find the actors look a lot less a part of that environment. Ewan McGreagor and Hayden stand out even more as not a part of that universe, and the actors in front of blue screen effect I found grating in the theatres, is present here. The minute details on their skin is more noticable, and it sticks out from the clean glossy look of all of the fake sets.

Of course this is not as prevelant in SD DVD since there is less detail overall in the picture.

I hope I have made it a little more clear for all.



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Old 06-05-2006, 10:02 PM   #9 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


hmm, looked very good to me.
oar too, rare for hbo.



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Old 06-06-2006, 02:06 PM   #10 of 19
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Re: Is it just me, or does Star Wars 3 look poorer in HD?


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They are both rigged up pretty much the same, and I am positive that it has nothing to do with calibration.