Just found a sd dvd that cannot be upconverted to 1080i through component

TonyD · 05-21-2006, 08:03 PM

so i just popped Game 6 into the xa1 and it will not upconvert using component.
in fact the player pops up a blue messgae saying high res output prohibited for this content.

i switched back and forth from the comp and the hdmi-dvi inputs and it would only play 1080i on the hdmi-dvi input.

when component it would automat just play the 480p version.

just thought it was odd.

btw the dvd in sd looks brutally bad, hd upcon not much better.

Steve Tannehill · 05-21-2006, 10:08 PM

Right, this is not unusual. If it has copy protection (most SD-DVD titles do) it can not be upconverted via component.

If you make a copy of the disc first and remove copy protection, however, it can upconvert.

- Steve

Frank@N · 05-23-2006, 01:44 PM

I guess I was under the impression that all movie DVDs couldn't be upconverted over component, which I though was odd since no one needs an A1 to copy DVDs...

TonyD · 05-23-2006, 01:46 PM

i think thats only the ict thing when used.

dont take my word tho', no expert.

Sean Bryan · 05-23-2006, 04:17 PM

This has absolutely nothing to do with ITC. ITC is only relevant to the high definition formats (HD DVD and BD).

There's a rule (not sure whose, the DVD forum maybe?) affecting standard definition DVD that does not allow DVDs to be upconverted over component on any upconverting DVD players (at least in the US). Upconversion is only allowed over a digital connection.

Yes, it is a very stupid rule. But there it is.

There are, however, players out there that don't obey this rule (mostly chinese players I believe).

The HD-A1 follows this rule just like most "big name brand" upconverting DVD payers.

I'd imagine that most future HD DVD and BD players will not allow upconversion of SD-DVD over component. However, this feature may be available when chinese players (or others) that don't obey the rule come out.

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Sami Kallio · 05-23-2006, 07:09 PM

Hmmm, I haven't seen this happen with my XA1 thru component.

TedD · 05-24-2006, 08:13 AM

The DVD has to carry macrovision copy protection for this rule to be enforced. If you have copied a DVD and used any of the copy protection schemes that strip macrovision, you will not have a problem.

Not all comercial DVD's carry the macrovision copy protection signal, so some commercial DVD's can be upscaled over component.

Ted

Jerome Grate · 05-24-2006, 09:05 AM

Most upscaling players (including xa1) does not upscale SD DVD via component. Usually it requires a firmware adjustment and in your case I don't think that exists yet.

Steve Tannehill · 05-24-2006, 09:39 AM

Ah I did not realize it was the Macrovision bit. That would explain why some intros, trailers, etc. (presumably not protected by Macrovision), play at 1080i, then the player switches to 480p once the feature starts.

It also explains why discs I have authored play at 1080i.

Now if I could only figure out how to create some HD-DVD content.

- Steve