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05-09-2006, 11:26 PM
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"Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
Please, Explain this one!
The HD DVD / DVD COMBO disc "Rumor has it.." came out today 5/9/06 and the back of the case states that side A, that has the High Definition Main Feature, is 16x9 1.78:1.
Side B that has the DVD Main Feature, is 480P Standard Definition 16x9 1.85:1 (The OAR).
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Warner uses words like "matted" and "scope" to differentiate the aspect ratio on the DVD's. If "matted" ... it's 1.85 ... originally.
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The Single DVD: "Rumor has it..." states on the back of the case: "Presented in a "MATTED" widescreen format preserving the aspect ratio of it's original theatrical exhibition."
Paul
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05-09-2006, 11:30 PM
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Re: "Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
Personally, I'm not losing sleep over this until someone can measure the two transfers on a display with zero overscan. Life is too short.
- Steve
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05-10-2006, 12:24 AM
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Re: "Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
How much sleep would you actually lose if it proved to be true? I'm guessing...none?
Sucks OAR is being compromised, especially if, as everyone was saying, these new HD formats are aimed directly at movie enthusiasts.
Kyle McKnight
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05-10-2006, 12:40 AM
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Re: "Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
I take OAR seriously. Until someone PROVES it has been compromised, this is all bullshit.
- Steve
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05-10-2006, 02:16 AM
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Re: "Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
Was it really necessary to start a new thread instead of just continuing the discussion in the GoodFellas thread? Should we create a new thread in the SD software area for each such release? There would be hundreds, if not thousands of them.
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05-10-2006, 06:17 AM
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Re: "Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
Actually aren't the movies that we have on standard DVD cropped at 1.78:1 if the OAR is 1.85:1?
I'm not sure what all the complaining is about if we have no proof that there is a difference at this time.
Everyone that has been following DVD releases for years knows that DVD packaging is not always a reliable source for information.
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05-10-2006, 08:21 AM
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Re: "Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
Keith, no, I know that at least Universal shows 1.85x1 movies with very small black bands.
For what it's worth, when I get Rumor Has It... hopefully today, I'll put it on the DVD-ROM drive and check it out on the computer display--which has zero overscan. I do not, however, have that option for the HD-DVD side of the disc.
- Steve
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05-10-2006, 09:15 AM
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Re: "Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
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Was it really necessary to start a new thread instead of just continuing the discussion in the GoodFellas thread? Should we create a new thread in the SD software area for each such release? There would be hundreds, if not thousands of them.
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Yes, I believe it was necessary to start this new thread.
An important turn of events such as this requires a new thread.
Many videophiles may not have bothered to re-read a thread about reasons for Goodfellas non OAR framing.
There is definitely a difference between having explanations of the reasons why, and the releasing of the first HD-DVD/DVD combo, day and date, having a new 480P SD correct OAR on one side and a new HD DVD incorrect OAR on the other side of the same new film.
This shows a start to a pattern. OAR has been used in one of the original elements, but not taken advantage of in the other.
Why? Did they use the HBO broadcast copy for the new HD-DVD? A slap in the face to videophile purists!
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Sucks OAR is being compromised, especially if, as everyone was saying, these new HD formats are aimed directly at movie enthusiasts.
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Exactly! 
Paul
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05-10-2006, 10:00 AM
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Re: "Rumor has it..." HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV & DVD has OAR 1.85:1???
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Keith, no, I know that at least Universal shows 1.85x1 movies with very small black bands.
For what it's worth, when I get Rumor Has It... hopefully today, I'll put it on the DVD-ROM drive and check it out on the computer display--which has zero overscan. I do not, however, have that option for the HD-DVD side of the disc.
- Steve
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When I play the DVD side, my 110" screen has a black bar on the bottom, about 1" width. When I play the HD-DVD side, it fills the 16x9 screen.
Paul
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