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Old 02-18-2008, 01:49 PM   #1 of 12
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Blu-Ray with older DVI?


I'll apologize beforehand because this has to have been asked already, but my searches didn't come up with anything.

I have a Samsung 56" DLP from 2002 that has a DVI input. I'm thinking about getting a blu-ray player, but I'm not sure if it will work with my TV, at least through the DVI input. I'm guessing it won't because the DVI on my TV is almost certainly not compliant with the copy protection stuff.

I was told about a little gizmo called HD Fury that will allegedly take HDMI video and port out an analog signal. Should I be using something like that if a digital option is not available to me?

Man, I really don't want to have to buy a new TV.



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Old 02-18-2008, 05:14 PM   #2 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


Check the manual or back panel for any mention of DVI-HDCP. In any case, unless you have your heart set on the all digital denon, you could always use HD component video.

(The model number would be helpful, here.)

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Old 02-18-2008, 05:49 PM   #3 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


Oh yeah... model number. Kinda missed that. [smacks forehead]

It's an HLN56W w/ 2nd gen DLP.

Incidentally, I just did a google search for that model number to do a visual check and google returned a long dead thread on this very forum where I once answered a post about that particular TV. In that thread I provided a link to an online manual and slap me and call me Susan if the manual doesn't say the DVI connection is HDCP compliant. It does! That's gotta be some kinda weird fate where I provide myself an answer in 2003 to a question I ask in 2008.

Long dead thread.

Link to manual

So I guess I'm safe. Woot! Right?



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Old 02-18-2008, 06:03 PM   #4 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


Should work, then, though unfortunately many of the early DVI-HDCP devices were plagued with handshaking issues. Putting an HDMI receiver in the mix might be tempting fate.
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:05 PM   #5 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


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Putting an HDMI receiver in the mix might be tempting fate.

As well as unspeakable horrors at the hands of my wife.



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Old 02-20-2008, 11:05 AM   #6 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


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Should work, then, though unfortunately many of the early DVI-HDCP devices were plagued with handshaking issues.

Handshaking? As in, communicating?



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Old 02-20-2008, 11:49 AM   #7 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


Sorry, handshaking is a technical term for "exchanging cryptographic keys". It's a prelude to communication, since almost all data over HDMI is transmitted in encrypted form.
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Old 02-20-2008, 01:22 PM   #8 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


Just to add my own anecdotal experience: my PS3 played nice with a 3 year old Westinghouse 32" LCD TV with DVI-HDCP (using an HDMI to DVI cable).

I've since bought a new living room set with HDCP, but I don't recall ever having any issues with the bedroom set.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:40 AM   #9 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


The dvi on the hln should be fine. I haven't had any handshake issues with mine. Currently, I've it's connected to a Marantz 4001 that switches between a PS3 and a Toshiba HDA35.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:58 AM   #10 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


Great, thanks for the input, but there will be no blu-ray player for me any time soon. I spent the money on a Fender Stratocaster instead.



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Old 03-29-2008, 06:22 PM   #11 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


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Great, thanks for the input, but there will be no blu-ray player for me any time soon. I spent the money on a Fender Stratocaster instead.
Just saw this post. I just dropped my spare change on a G&L ASAT Classic. I feel your pain/sickness.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:21 PM   #12 of 12
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Re: Blu-Ray with older DVI?


I used an HDMI to DVI cord. You can get them. On one end, it's and HDMI, on the other end it's DVI. It's an easy fix, and you don't have to mess with switching anything.