BD Live coming to PS3 in late March

Patrick.C · 03-20-2008, 07:20 AM

From PS3 goes BD-Live in upcoming firmware update - PS3 Fanboy

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Sony has announced today that a new firmware update will arrive for the PS3 later this month. Version 2.20 will add support for Blu-Ray Live (profile 2.0) features such as the ability to download extra content like bonus scenes, ringtones and subtitles. Blu-Ray Live also allows interactive movie-based games to communicate over the internet -- effectively adding online multiplayer support. Other features found in firmware v2.20 include:

"Resume play" will enable PS3 to start playing a BD and DVD video at the point it was stopped, even if the disc had been removed. (BD-J format discs are not supported)

"Audio Output Device" will be a new Remote Play setting, enabling PSP to serve as a remote control for music played through PS3.
PS3's Internet browser will be enhanced: Video files directly linked from a Web page will be able to be streamed, and the browser's view speed will be improved.

DivX and WMV format videos that are larger than 2GB will be playable.

"Mosquito Noise Reduction" will be added as an AV setting in the control panel of the DVD/BD player for improved movie playback. (BD discs recorded with BDMV format are not supported)

The update will be released sometime "in late March."

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Adam_R · 03-20-2008, 08:01 AM

Profile 2.0 and still no DTS-MA support?

GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Jeff Gatie · 03-20-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam_R

Profile 2.0 and still no DTS-MA support?

GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Rumor has it that DTS-MA internal decoding will never be possible due to hardware limitations. They simply did not include the hardware necessary for internal decoding of DTS-MA and it can't be done by software.

Adam_R · 03-20-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie

Rumor has it that DTS-MA internal decoding will never be possible due to hardware limitations. They simply did not include the hardware necessary for internal decoding of DTS-MA and it can't be done by software.

That's the first I have heard of that rumor.

Are you sure you aren't mixing that up with the fact that the hardware is limited and will never be able to use BITSTREAM with either new format? It was officially announced by Sony that DTS-MA would be supported in a future update.

Carlo Medina · 03-20-2008, 11:04 AM

My understanding was the same as Adam's - that DTS-MA streaming was not possible due to an early variant of HDMI 1.3 which the PS3 uses and will not stream that codec.

In the end it doesn't really matter for me because I'm going to have to update an expensive piece of hardware regardless. Either my NAD T763 receiver (which doesn't decode the HD formats) or my PS3 (which, even if it does decode it, it doesn't have 5.1 outs and my T763 can't do PCM 5.1 over coaxial/optical).

So if I keep my receiver, I'm going to have to buy the new Sony or Panasonic BD player coming out this spring/summer.

Jeff Gatie · 03-20-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam_R

That's the first I have heard of that rumor.

Are you sure you aren't mixing that up with the fact that the hardware is limited and will never be able to use BITSTREAM with either new format? It was officially announced by Sony that DTS-MA would be supported in a future update.

If you read the forums and the blogs, people go back and forth over both internal decoding and bitstream. Sony is mute about either, so any firm stance is rumor and/or speculation.

Grant H · 03-20-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie

If you read the forums and the blogs, people go back and forth over both internal decoding and bitstream. Sony is mute about either, so any firm stance is rumor and/or speculation.

It's only the bitstreaming aspect that's rumored to be limited by hardware, and even that isn't an absolute certainty. I believe it is limited since players that pass the bitstream have existed for awhile, and the PS3 hasn't been updated to pass it. Unless it's just that Sony really wants all decoding to be done inside the PS3 for menu sounds, advanced feature audio mixing, etc.

The PS3 has more than ample processing power to decode DTS MA internally, which NO OTHER PLAYER DOES at this point. Please don't regurgitate the absolutely 100% inaccurate info that it is incapable of decoding it.

Don't expect the update until AFTER the Sony and Panasonic players with internal decoding hit the market this summer. I'd say mid to late summer. Insiders have virtually guaranteed it is coming. The CEs need features to tout to sell their new elite players and if the PS3 beat them to market with everything while undercutting the price they wouldn't be happy. Why do you think all the CE's except Toshiba backed Blu-ray? They wanted to make money, and Sony and the BDA have obviously guaranteed their ability. After the Chinese players ruined the DVD market for them, they wouldn't want the PS3 doing the same thing for HD.

The PS3 is a bargain as the most full-featured and reliable BD hardware available. The budget price just means you have to wait a little longer for some things, and really they've been very short waits. Most people don't even remember when it was updated to upscale DVDs, add 24 Hz processing, add forced 24 Hz processing... We got 1.1 fast. Not that much of a wait for 2.0. It probably won't be much of a wait for DTS HD MA either once there are other decoding players out there.

Kenneth Lee · 03-21-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick.C

A host of other minor features will also be coming, including a "Resume Play" feature for Blu-ray and DVD movies, which will let film fans restart their movies from the exact point they left off, even if the disc has been removed from the drive.

Woo Hoo! Finally.

Brent M · 03-23-2008, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie

Rumor has it that DTS-MA internal decoding will never be possible due to hardware limitations. They simply did not include the hardware necessary for internal decoding of DTS-MA and it can't be done by software.

Edit: Grant basically just said everything I was going to type.

Jack Gilvey · 03-23-2008, 09:44 AM

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It's only the bitstreaming aspect that's rumored to be limited by hardware, and even that isn't an absolute certainty.

That's been my understanding, unless there's new info?

Adam_R · 03-24-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent M

Edit: Grant basically just said everything I was going to type.

So can either of you provide a link to back up your claim that DTS-MA can't be decoded in software?

Paul Hillenbrand · 03-24-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_R

Are you sure you aren't mixing that up with the fact that the hardware is limited and will never be able to use BITSTREAM with either new format? It was officially announced by Sony that DTS-MA would be supported in a future update.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Gatie

If you read the forums and the blogs, people go back and forth over both internal decoding and bitstream. Sony is mute about either, so any firm stance is rumor and/or speculation.

On March 17, 2008 on Post #1851 Club-Penton Thread @ Blu-ray.com.

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Originally Posted by Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

I took the time to confirm with the SCE insider that the PS3 will definitely get DTS-MA because to the best of my knowledge there has been no credible source that has confirmed this and everything that you’ve read on the internet concerning this issue has been either wishful thinking or supposition. Paidgeek never confirmed this, because he would be overstepping his bounds(Sony Pictures) to post such.

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3/16/08 = Penton-Man's Post #1828

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Originally Posted by mainman:
PS3 will internally decode DTS Master Audio right?

Originally Posted by Penton-Man:
Yes, otherwise I have no specifics.

Paul