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04-12-2008, 03:09 PM
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Jari
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Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...
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Originally Posted by Jack Gilvey
Everyone wants to see the lights they paid for. 
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Damn right!
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Originally Posted by Jack Gilvey
Many are resistant, as you see, thinking (hoping?) player-decoding must be inferior somehow, but that's based on a misunderstanding of what decoding actually is.
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Not the case with me. I didn´t say that player-decoding is "inferior" in sound/quality wise. I just personally want all the options that are available, and in this case it means also "bitstream". I guess it´s not possible with PS3, but at some day I´ve the player that will do both (and I can then "decide myself" what is best for my needs etc).
But yeah, it´s also "just me"-type of thing. I just can´t buy some "older" or "cheaper" receiver with HDMI 1.1/1.2 IF 1.3-models are available. I just have to get one of those. Can´t help it , I´m afraid.
And with that 1.3-receiver, I don´t have to worry about things (well, there´s always *something*, I guess..). If I want bitstream in the future, my receiver can handle it. It´s not that PS3 will be my last BD-player (but that receiver will have to "last" for several years).
Rewind - DVDcompare
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*Blu-ray - US PS3 (1080p)
*HD DVD - Toshiba XE1 (1080p)
*Sony Bravia KDL-40W2000 (1080p)
*Nintendo Wii (Euro)
*Yamaha RX-V1800 (HDMI 1.3)
*Xbox 360 Elite (HDMI)
Last edited by Jari K : 04-12-2008 at 03:11 PM.
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04-12-2008, 09:46 PM
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Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...
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But yeah, it´s also "just me"-type of thing. I just can´t buy some "older" or "cheaper" receiver with HDMI 1.1/1.2 IF 1.3-models are available. I just have to get one of those. Can´t help it , I´m afraid.
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By all means, indulge yourself. I'm just trying to help lay the facts out so people can make informed decisions.
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04-15-2008, 11:05 AM
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Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...
Loaded 2.30 this morning, and the store looks new and snazzy...except that it takes forever for images to load (and it was supposed to get faster). I'm thinking the servers are getting hammered with people checking out the new storefront.
Since I don't have support for 5.1 LPCM the new DTS-HD MA means nothing to me. But this summer I will most likely upgrade my receiver so I hope people report positive findings about it...
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04-15-2008, 12:21 PM
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Jari
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Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...
I briefly tested "ID4" after update, and PS3 still showed "1.5 Mbps" with DTS-HD master-track (when pressing "display").. I donīt have HDMI-receiver yet, but should it show higher bitrate now when DTS-MA is supported? Or am I missing something?
Rewind - DVDcompare
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*Blu-ray - US PS3 (1080p)
*HD DVD - Toshiba XE1 (1080p)
*Sony Bravia KDL-40W2000 (1080p)
*Nintendo Wii (Euro)
*Yamaha RX-V1800 (HDMI 1.3)
*Xbox 360 Elite (HDMI)
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04-15-2008, 12:34 PM
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Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...
Jari, are you outputting via HDMI to your TV or Optical to your receiver? If it's optical then the settings would remain the same. I'm downloading the update now, and I'm going to run out and pick up GT5P, so I'll look at it soon.
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04-15-2008, 01:58 PM
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Jari
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Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...
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...or Optical to your receiver? If it's optical then the settings would remain the same.
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Ah, yes, I still use Optical. So that was the reason then? I just thought, that it doesn´t matter when checking the info from the disc...
With "proper" DTS-MA info, you should see this when you press "display" from PS3:
PS3 Firmware 2.3x - Master Thread [FIRMWARE TALK ONLY PLEASE] - Page 10 - AVS Forum
(post #282)
(example: Simpsons Movie):
DTS-HD MA - 5.1 Ch. - 48 kHz - 4.9 Mbps (also variable?) - AVC - (37.7 Mbps - this is of course variable)
Btw. From the DTS-site:
DTS - We Bring Entertainment Alive!
"DTS-HD Master Audio delivers audio at super high variable bit rates -24.5 mega-bits per second (Mbps) on Blu-ray discs and 18.0 Mbps on HD-DVD."
So this "max 24.5" audio bitrate is technically possible or something, but not really used at the moment (if ever)? Does the "variable" here means that it can vary during the film or just that different tracks have different bitrates?
Rewind - DVDcompare
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*Blu-ray - US PS3 (1080p)
*HD DVD - Toshiba XE1 (1080p)
*Sony Bravia KDL-40W2000 (1080p)
*Nintendo Wii (Euro)
*Yamaha RX-V1800 (HDMI 1.3)
*Xbox 360 Elite (HDMI)
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04-15-2008, 02:25 PM
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Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...
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Originally Posted by Zack Gibbs
I'm going to run out and pick up GT5P
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I thought that didn't come out until tomorrow. Is there a retailer putting it out today?
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04-15-2008, 03:52 PM
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Re: New to Blu? Buy a PS3: the most featured BD hardware available...
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Originally Posted by Patrick.C
I thought that didn't come out until tomorrow. Is there a retailer putting it out today?
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Ha, ha...I was thinking the same thing. 
"Music is a magic carpet loaded with oils and other soothing potions, it's just what you need when you don't know what you need, when you've got more questions than answers." - Bob Lefsetz
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