Does XBOX360 HD-DVD do 1080p?

elMalloc · 11-10-2006, 05:51 AM

So as far as I know (I haven't been paying much attention lately though), the only HD-DVD players out do 1080i (like my Toshiba A1).

Does the XBOX360's player do 1080p (I imagine it does)?

Does anyone have any information on how the player compares to the Toshiba A1?

Thanks,
ELmO

ppltd · 11-10-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by elMalloc

So as far as I know (I haven't been paying much attention lately though), the only HD-DVD players out do 1080i (like my Toshiba A1).

Does the XBOX360's player do 1080p (I imagine it does)?

Does anyone have any information on how the player compares to the Toshiba A1?

Thanks,
ELmO

The xbox 360 supports 1080i and 1080p, as will its HD-DVD player, it just currently dows not support HDMI.

Romar Armas · 11-10-2006, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by elMalloc

So as far as I know (I haven't been paying much attention lately though), the only HD-DVD players out do 1080i (like my Toshiba A1).

Does the XBOX360's player do 1080p (I imagine it does)?

Does anyone have any information on how the player compares to the Toshiba A1?

Thanks,
ELmO

Here's a comparison of the two.

Pictures Here.

elMalloc · 11-11-2006, 04:13 AM

Thanks for both of your replies.

The microsoft guy's blog mentions nothing about 360 having 1080p, this is a major thing - the A1 only does 1080i!

Since the 360 isn't doing HDMI, does that mean it can't output the 1080p!??! Or will it do it over analog?

I thought it downgrades the signal (intentionally, not due to analog vs digital signal/noise) if it can't sense an HDMI input...

RobertDW · 11-11-2006, 04:53 AM

If your HDTV is 1080p and input 1080i from the player your HDTV is going to display 1080p and there is no difference. Read these articles to learn why there is no difference (other than the hype coming from the BD camp).
http://www.projectorcentral.com/blu-ray_2.htm
http://www.projectorcentral.com/reta...VD_Blu-ray.htm

The xBox HD DVD player will output 1080p both for games and movies via VGA. The component output will do 1080p for games and 1080i for movies.

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ppltd · 11-11-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by elMalloc

Thanks for both of your replies.

The microsoft guy's blog mentions nothing about 360 having 1080p, this is a major thing - the A1 only does 1080i!

Since the 360 isn't doing HDMI, does that mean it can't output the 1080p!??! Or will it do it over analog?

I thought it downgrades the signal (intentionally, not due to analog vs digital signal/noise) if it can't sense an HDMI input...

XBox 360, with current updates, outputs 1080p through VGA OR Component.

Shawn Perron · 11-11-2006, 11:45 AM

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If your HDTV is 1080p and input 1080i from the player your HDTV is going to display 1080p and there is no difference. Read these articles to learn why there is no difference (other than the hype coming from the BD camp).

Actually, a majority of HDTVs do not properly deinterlace a 1080i signal to 1080p. And of those TVs that do properly deinterlace the signal, there are very few HDTVs that do proper 3:2 conversion.

http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookmeup/1106hook/

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First up was the deinterlacing test. The bad news is that 54.09 percent of the 61 sets failed. The good news is that the HDTVs from Hitachi, JVC, and Pioneer all passed, just as these manufacturers claim in their respective literature. Mitsubishi has upgraded their 1080p DLP rear projectors' processors in the time since their 2005 models failed. Now they all pass. Sharp has a number of 2006 sets that passed, whereas, last year, all of their models failed.

The 3:2 test results were far more disastrous, with a failure rate of 80.33 percent. But sets by JVC, Pioneer, and Hitachi (see notation) passed this one, as did a number of other manufacturers' products, although there were some mixed results, depending on the specific model.

This was a test of 61 2006 models done just last month. 54.09% were incapable of properly deinterlacing a 1080i signal to 1080p. 80.33% were incapable of doing proper 3:2 pulldown even if they could deinterlace. If you have a TV from before 2006 the odds of it properly deinterlacing are even lower. Unless you have a HDTV that can properly deinterlace a 1080i signal, you need to have a 1080p input or you will be missing out on a lot of the possible resolution of your display.

Unfortunately this doesn't just apply to 1080p HDTVs. Unless your HDTV is a 1080i CRT, 1080i still has to be deinterlaced before your TV can display it progressively.

Romar Armas · 11-11-2006, 10:19 PM

1080P was just added recently through a Dashboard Update. This was also when the HD DVD support was included among other things.

elMalloc · 11-12-2006, 08:10 AM

I find it interesting that some say we can't see a difference between 1080i -> upconverted to 1080p, vs. a sourced 1080p signal....

I know upconverters work fairly well, but how can a sourced signal look not even "sightly" better?

It's like saying a 480p DVD upconverted to 1080i looks the same as the 1080i HD-DVD, I don't think so.

-ELmO