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10-12-2006, 04:58 PM
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Grant H
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
I would think they could drop as "low" as $1,000 as new units.
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10-12-2006, 05:15 PM
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Anthony
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
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I would think they could drop as "low" as $1,000 as new units.
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That sounds alright to me - $300 dollars off the current MSRP selling price. If you get it online with fee shipping and no taxes, it's a good deal, IMO, for what seems like a pretty solid and fully-featured first-gen unit.
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10-12-2006, 09:36 PM
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YiFeng
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
i've been hearing from my tech-nerds community bulletin boards that 1080p has been outputted over component connection many a times. is this BS... or is there some truth to it?
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The Panny outputs 1080p/60... I would assume that the Sigma image processing chip contained in the Panny is responsible for adjustments to the output stage. I could be wrong on this, so if anyone here has any input on this, it would be much appreciated.
Anyway, the Panny outputs 1080p/60 from the HDMI port. 1080i is the highest resolution allowable through the component output. Also, the player will not allow you to even select 1080p from the setup menu unless it is connected via HDMI to a 1080p compatable display.
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10-12-2006, 10:12 PM
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Ben Williams
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
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i've been hearing from my tech-nerds community bulletin boards that 1080p has been outputted over component connection many a times. is this BS... or is there some truth to it?
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I'm sure it is technically possible to transmit a 1080p signal over a component cable. I just don't think it is possible on any of the current generation of HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players.
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10-12-2006, 10:59 PM
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Ron
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Apparently, the Panny is now getting pretty hard to get. Crutchfield is now sold out of the unit and so are most B&M stores. So, I wouldn't count on significant price breaks anytime soon.
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That's fine. With Sony still using mostly mpeg2 and most of the films out right now can't match that of HD-DVD I won't buy any Blu-ray films.
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10-13-2006, 12:57 AM
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
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I'm sure it is technically possible to transmit a 1080p signal over a component cable. I just don't think it is possible on any of the current generation of HD-DVD or Blu-Ray players.
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An excerpt from this article at the Electronic Frontiers Foundation (my emphasis) :
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Anything analog, however, can be converted back into digital form and copied. To Hollywood, this feature looks like a bug, one they call the "analog hole.".............Hollywood wants to change all that, enlisting federal bureaucrats to regulate technology companies and hobble anything that touches analog video outputs, including video cards, VCRs, PVRs, and much more. By government mandate, all analog-to-digital technologies would have to obey copyright holders' commands and have their hoods welded shut, cutting off user modifications and open source developers.
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The EFF has gone to bat at the federal level many times - and won - for the citizens of this country (remember those people?) to help maintain our rights and are not some rinky-dink backwater organization.
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10-13-2006, 04:03 AM
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
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and most of the films out right now can't match that of HD-DVD I won't buy any Blu-ray films
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Hmmm. Got troll much?
Unless it's before August/Sep 2006....when the majority of newly released BD titles began either matching or exceeding their counterparts.
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10-13-2006, 06:51 AM
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Michel Fabien
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My only fear is the mutichannel analog outputs will disappear down the road, and I want to get those since I'm not looking to upgrade my receiver anytime soon.
Question: Are the DD and DTS lossless codecs really capable of being processes in the player and passed over the MC analog outs? I thought those would be digital or HDMI only, and just the PCM would be available on the analogs. It would be really cool if they were available via analog since it makes all those 5.1/7.1-ready receivers worth keeping, especially if the PCM tracks don't hang around.
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No one can answer your question? Then I'll try:
Go to: http://panasonic.com/consumer_electr...ay/default.asp
and click: "Lifelike HD Audio"
At the bottom of the page it says: "Blu-Ray compatible receiver and 7.1 -channel speaker system required".
My understanding is that you are asked to invest in an eventual Blu-Ray receiver.
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10-13-2006, 07:22 AM
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Anthony
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
The Panasonic comes with a registration card in the box for a future firmware upgrade to support decoding Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA in the box. There will be no need to use HDMI for the lossless codecs unless you want to do further DSP processing to the signal, or use outboard DACS with a superior analogue stage. The signal will be decoded and passed, full resolution, right through the analogue outs.
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