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11-28-2006, 12:34 PM
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Dana Baggett
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
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I'm not sure that the info is credible. There are a few posters over there who are just wacko about CUE. And, there was no 1.1 firmware released by Panasonic.
No need to panic. Things will get sorted out.
Dana
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11-28-2006, 12:43 PM
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Grant H
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
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I'm not sure that the info is credible. There are a few posters over there who are just wacko about CUE. And, there was no 1.1 firmware released by Panasonic.
No need to panic. Things will get sorted out.
Dana
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If the info weren't coming from Stacy Spears I'd be inclined to agree with you. Still, if there's a problem I'm sure Panasonic will correct it....provided they know about it.
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11-28-2006, 01:18 PM
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Anthony
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
Okay, but the question is has anyone here with the 1.2 firmware on their player actually seen this on their player? If not, then it's much ado about nothing, IMO.
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11-28-2006, 01:44 PM
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Grant H
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
I can't help but wonder if CUE (on whatever player(s)) could account for the discrepancies in the perceived quality of the Superman Returns HD transfer. Some say the transfer if flawless; others perceive artifacts. What if the artifacts are actually CUE rearing its head as it tends to do with solid intense colors, especially reds and blues (which the SR has an ample supply of)?
My midis bring all the Force to the yard; my midis are better than yours!
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11-29-2006, 12:07 AM
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Neil Joseph
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
I don't know if I believe this whole thing but anyway, cue or not, a newer firmware upgrade would fix it anyway, assuming it does exist. That is the whole beauty about code upgrades, right?
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11-29-2006, 01:54 AM
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Stan R Thompson
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
When the Panasonic has the upgrade for Dolby True HD & DTS-MA will it be able to output the new audio codecs over the 7.1 analog outs or only over the HDMI output. And if it will output the new codecs over the analog outputs will it be downconverted sound or will I get the full bitrate sound of the new audio codecs?
Unfortunately I have a receiver that doesn't have an HDMI input. It only has 7.1 analog inputs.
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11-29-2006, 02:38 AM
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YiFeng
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
what's with the cue business? why is it bad?
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11-29-2006, 04:54 AM
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
Chroma Upsampling Error, aka chroma bug.
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11-29-2006, 07:39 AM
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Dana Baggett
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
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When the Panasonic has the upgrade for Dolby True HD & DTS-MA will it be able to output the new audio codecs over the 7.1 analog outs or only over the HDMI output. And if it will output the new codecs over the analog outputs will it be downconverted sound or will I get the full bitrate sound of the new audio codecs?
Unfortunately I have a receiver that doesn't have an HDMI input. It only has 7.1 analog inputs.
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The firmware upgrade will provide greater decoding capability for the player. Transport of the decoded signal will be no different than it is at present. Eight channel LPCM by HDMI 1.2a or eight channel line-level audio output derived from the multichannel mixed PCM signal passed through the BD10's 192kHz/24bit digital-to-analog converters.
Panasonic is the only Blu-ray disc player in production with 7.1 analog outs and they boast about them here. http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/b...0/hqsound.html
"The D/A converter uses Advanced Segment D-A processing, which applies multi-bit processing to establish the audio reference and 1bit processing to render the delicate nuances. These combine to create a remarkably beautiful sound that has both power and purity." 
Bottom line: same as 8 ch. LPCM.
Dana
Last edited by drbonbi : 11-29-2006 at 10:02 AM.
Reason: Corrected typo.
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11-29-2006, 08:45 AM
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Anthony
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Re: Panasonic DMP-BD10
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The firmware upgrade will provide greater decoding capability for the player. Transport of the decoded signal will be no different than it is at present. Eight channel LPCM by HDMI 1.2a or eight channel line-level audio output derived from the multichannel mixed PCM signal passed through the BD10's 92kHz/24bit digital-to-analog converters.
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That's correct, only the Panasonic has 192/24 DACs, not 92/24 DACs.  
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Panasonic is the only Blu-ray disc player in production with 7.1 analog outs and they boast about them here. http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/b...0/hqsound.html
"The D/A converter uses Advanced Segment D-A processing, which applies multi-bit processing to establish the audio reference and 1bit processing to render the delicate nuances. These combine to create a remarkably beautiful sound that has both power and purity."
Bottom line: same as 8 ch. LPCM.
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Nice, I have to admit, the Panasonic does sound quite nice, though I haven't really burned it in yet. I'm still not sure If I prefer it to my Denon DVD-2200 as far as sound, I'd have to do a more thorough comparison.
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