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06-14-2006, 06:29 AM
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Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
http://www.hdbeat.com/2006/06/13/sam...en-pored-over/
On the Samsung player (first Blu-Ray player released), it appears that the 1080p Blu-Ray discs will be decoded to 1080i, and then line doubled back to 1080p; it uses the same 1080i Broadcom chip that the Toshiba HD-A1 has. And this wouldn't be any different than if you hooked up a player that just output 1080i to a 1080p HDTV. Buyer beware, as your $999 won't get you a true 1080p output on the Samsung!
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06-14-2006, 06:57 AM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
This has already been brought up in other threads. For me, it really doesn't matter since my television doesn't have HDMI and can't input 1080P anyway. The best it can do is 1080I. When I'm comfortable enough with the new televisions that are coming out in the next year or so, I'll upgrade my television and audio processor with HDMI inputs and outputs which by that time, I'll be ready for the 2nd or perhaps the 3rd generation Blu Ray or HD DVD player(s).
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06-14-2006, 08:01 AM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
Has there been any explanation why Samsung designed the player this way? I still expect the 1080p output to be excellent for the displays that accept 1080p. We should know soon enough.
Chris
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06-14-2006, 02:54 PM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
HOw many of you out there actually have a Display 1080p???
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06-14-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
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HOw many of you out there actually have a Display 1080p???
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Not a big percentage of the population, but a big percentage of the early Blu-ray adopters will. I wouldn't be surprised to hear over 50% of purchasers of the first Blu-ray player to output true 1080p actually own 1080p displays. There are a number of 1080p display models available now from Sony, Samsung, and Westinghouse among others. I am surprised the Samsung opening shot doesn't do it.
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06-14-2006, 04:57 PM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
Greetings
First adopters of DVD and HDTV are unlikely to have 1080p capability and they are also the most likely first adopters of HD DVD formats.
The HD sets in the first adopter groups would be lucky to have DVI/HDMI inputs. Buying your first HDTV now does not put one in a first adopter group. Unless people swapped out their TV's every 5 years.
50% with 1080p sets ... yeah ...
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Last edited by Michael TLV : 06-14-2006 at 04:59 PM.
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06-14-2006, 05:10 PM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
Michael,
And about those 1080p sets: can they properly display 1080i?
Because if they can, there hardly is a problem. Interlaced can look exactly as good as progressive - it's just the conversion that may pose a problem, under certain circumstances.
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06-14-2006, 05:22 PM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
Greetings
Cees ... yeah ...
People are getting too caught up in the specs again and the hype that goes with it.
When the industry experts tell me that properly deinterlaced 1080i is the same as 1080p ... that works for me. You are now talking about something that you can't see ... but merely want bragging rights to. 
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06-14-2006, 06:27 PM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
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Not a big percentage of the population, but a big percentage of the early Blu-ray adopters will. I wouldn't be surprised to hear over 50% of purchasers of the first Blu-ray player to output true 1080p actually own 1080p displays. There are a number of 1080p display models available now from Sony, Samsung, and Westinghouse among others. I am surprised the Samsung opening shot doesn't do it.
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I don't know how you quantify that percentage??? I'm an early adopter, but I don't have a 1080P display yet. I know they're out there, but for most of us buying such a display is a big decision that will take a significant investment, especially those of us that have bought a new display over the last 4 years when 1080P displays weren't available until six months ago or so.
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06-14-2006, 08:02 PM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
Michael TLV,
I have a 57" Sony CRT RPTV (KP-57WS520). Do you know if this set is displaying correct 1080i and not doing anything crazy? I've seen 1080i material and HD DVD on it and it looks great to me. I know the set can't do 1080p...but just wonder how much better it would be.
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06-14-2006, 08:12 PM
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Re: Samsung Blu-Ray player cannot output true 1080p
I’m with Robert—at least philosophically—I have two HD TVs, one of which (a 30” Samsung) has only component inputs and the other (a 24”Sony) that does have and HDCP DMI input.
Both are 1080i—and I have no interest in replacing either, much less both, anytime soon.
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