HTF DVD Review: The Jungle Book - 40th Anniversary Platinum Edition - Page 3

Chuck Pennington · 10-04-2007, 12:08 AM

I have my tv calibrated using Video Essentials and the lines are visible in many shots, but only when I look for them and get up close to the screen. In fact, doing this I can see some sort of compression on ANY DVD, though admittedly the lines on THE JUNGLE BOOK are different.

When I set my TV to some of the default settings, the lines are far more visible - but the contrast and brightness is set too high on those settings. Again, my set only has a 800:1 contrast ratio so that might have something to do with it.

ROBIN HOOD I was pleased with, but the last PETER PAN was pretty bad IMHO.

BTW - I just got done posting ROBIN HOOD comparison pics over at UltimateDisney.com. :-)

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/...ic.php?t=21163

RobertSiegel · 10-04-2007, 12:26 AM

are you watching this upscaled or did you try 480p on a regular dvd player? I will have my copy tomorrow, so I can test on the Epson 1080 projector, but seems like it's there for everyone.

Craig Beam · 10-04-2007, 08:29 AM

50" Panasonic Plasma set, upconverting Sony DVD player via HDMI. My brightness isn't set very high, and I can see the lines. Damn it.

Chuck Pennington · 10-04-2007, 09:01 AM

I didn't say I couldn't see them - I said they are very slight and only noticeable when I look for them, just like the pixilization around the lines of characters on ALL of these Disney DVD restorations.

What is your contrast set to? Mine isn't set to the max like I see a lot of TVs default to. Maybe that is pronouncing it, I dunno.

Reagan · 10-04-2007, 10:03 AM

I checked the 43:25 mark and the lines are there. It actually starts at 43:27 on my disc. The odd part is that the lines aren't always there. Some shots, yes, and others, no - even when the color and brightness of some object is the same (e.g., Baloo's gray fur).

It's hit and miss, and I can understand why a reviewer would miss it. I noticed a lot of compression artifacts in the shots with the lines - as someone above has said, maybe there is a relationship.

Long story short, there's a problem. How noticeable the problem is depends on the brightness of your monitor and viewing distance. From my normal distance, the lines are barely perceptible.

-Reagan

Mike Frezon · 10-04-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidJ

Now I almost scared to open it and I have been looking forward to it for a long time. Is everyone seeing the lines?

I'm not. I think it looks great.

But I often see things differently than the guys with big set-ups here. I'm watching on a 26" HD CRT (calibrated with Avia).

Jim-M · 10-04-2007, 01:07 PM

I found it happening at about 23:45 into the movie. I noticed during the first viewing, but no one else in the family did. I'm viewing it on a 46" 1080p LCD with a Sony upconverting DVD player. I changed the output of the player from 1080i to 720p to 480p, but the lines were always there. I also changed the brightness and contrast on the TV but could not make the lines go away. The other 99% of the DVD has such great audio and video compared to the previous release that the momentary lines did not detract from the viewing. The lines are definitely noticeable while viewing, but not as prominent as some of the blown up screen shots in this thread might lead you to believe. They happen for a second or two and there is usually enough motion in the scene that they can tend to blend in more to the eye than the still screen shot indicates.

Brian Sharp · 10-04-2007, 01:43 PM

Will be interesting to compare to the region 2 release when it comes out next month though i would be surprised if it is any different. But there again I have been surprised in the past!

Chris Cheese · 10-04-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim-M

I found it happening at about 23:45 into the movie. I noticed during the first viewing, but no one else in the family did. I'm viewing it on a 46" 1080p LCD with a Sony upconverting DVD player. I changed the output of the player from 1080i to 720p to 480p, but the lines were always there. I also changed the brightness and contrast on the TV but could not make the lines go away. The other 99% of the DVD has such great audio and video compared to the previous release that the momentary lines did not detract from the viewing. The lines are definitely noticeable while viewing, but not as prominent as some of the blown up screen shots in this thread might lead you to believe. They happen for a second or two and there is usually enough motion in the scene that they can tend to blend in more to the eye than the still screen shot indicates.

This makes me wonder if my copy is indeed more defective than some other folks' copies, because for me, the lines are there throughout most of the film (though I didn't notice them much in the last 15-20 minutes) and they sometimes last for a number of seconds at a time.

Jim-M · 10-04-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Cheese

This makes me wonder if my copy is indeed more defective than some other folks' copies, because for me, the lines are there throughout most of the film (though I didn't notice them much in the last 15-20 minutes) and they sometimes last for a number of seconds at a time.

I didn't look at all the listed times I saw in one of the posts when I was checking last night. I didn't mean to imply that 23:45 was the only time in the film I saw those lines.