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Crawdaddy
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Re: HTF REVIEW: The Last Wagon
Michael,
Good review, but I don't share your premise about how Indians were portrayed in the film. The Apaches were killing whites for a reason which Commanche Todd mentioned when he returned back to the young survivors. Also, the way Todd talked about his life with the Indians was very positive towards them. Furthermore, the sister who was half-Indian showed she was a better person than her all-white half-sister. Crawdaddy G.W. McLintock: Camille, you're on your own. |
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Re: HTF REVIEW: The Last Wagon
Robert, thanks for the feedback. You are right that the Comanche were talked about in good character, but they never were in the film. I was talking about the Apache who were the villians in this film. As you said, they had a reason for killing whites, but I felt that there was little explanation of it - or care to really explain it (sympathize for their cause). ...I, on the other hand, really sympathize...and I'm not going there...
![]() I sort of did a quick revisement in the review just to make myself a bit clearer... Mike 20th Century Fox DVD/Blu-ray Reviewer Anchor Bay/Starz Entertainment DVD/Blu-ray Reviewer mike@hometheaterforum.com (temp. unused, PM me) |
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Re: HTF REVIEW: The Last Wagon
This is a very fun film, with one of Widmark's best non-noir performances, but the mentality of the script (which was co-written by James Edward Grant, the Duke's favorite writer) is really jarring at times. And it's not just Comanche Todd's speech about how great smoking is. One of the characters is a shrewish girl whose main purpose in the film is to be so annoying that the audience cheers any time someone slaps her -- which happens three times in the movie, and the last time its not so much a slap as Widmark punching her in the face. And then at the end of the movie, she says he taught her how to be a grown up!
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Re: HTF REVIEW: The Last Wagon
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I've got this film on pre-order and can't wait to check it out. Delmer Daves also directed Jubal in 1956, which I absolutely love. |
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Re: HTF REVIEW: The Last Wagon
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I like Richard Widmark alot and always enjoy his performances but I do not care for noir's so I have not seen many of his. So I have to disagree as I enjoy him alot in his Westerns and other non-noir films. ...When you eliminate the impossible whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truthTop 20 Films |
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Re: HTF REVIEW: The Last Wagon
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This is the best Widmark performance I have seen in a Western, he is outstanding. I absolutely loved the film, and am amazed that Delmer Daves was able to put out this and another brilliant Western Jubal in the same year! Some film makers these days would be lucky to put out two films of that quality in their entire career. I also watched The Proud Ones which was a very good film as well, but a completely different type of Western. It is the best Robert Webb film I've seen. Beneath the 12-Mile Reef, Love Me Tender, and Pirates of Tortuga are reasonable films, but to me are B rather than A pictures. I mean Love Me Tender is even black and white, even though it has Presley. Did some accountant say "if you pay Presley that much we can't afford colour!" ![]() One interesting stylistic difference of these two films is that although they are both CinemaScope, The Last Wagon is cut about twice as fast, compared to The Proud Ones, even though they were most likely made with the same B&L CinemaScope lenses, at the same studio, and in the same year. As these early 'Scope films are reissued on DVD it is becoming more evident that film makers were able to cut CinemaScope as fast as the academy format, even though for a long time everyone assumed that 'Scope directly resulted in less cutting (The Proud Ones is cut slow at the start, but gets significantly faster as the film goes on). It is cool to see how different film makers applied 'Scope to acheive different aesthetic outcomes. |
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