Forum NewsForumsHTF Chat Hardware ReviewsSoftware Reviews HTF Events
Home Theater Forum
Welcome to the Home Theater Forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum Forum Search: 
 
Web Search: 
 
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum


 
Forum Jump

Forum Sponsors

Home Theater Forum > Archives > DVD Reviews Archive
[ HTF REVIEW: Witness - Special Collector's Edition ]

Post New Thread   

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-21-2005, 07:44 PM   #1 of 29
Scott Kimball
Member
 
Location: Portland, Maine, USA
Join Date: May 2000
Local Time: 07:02 PM
Local Date: 10-10-2008
Posts: 1,617


Witness - Special Collector's Edition





Studio: Paramount

Year: 1985

Rated: R

Length: 112 minutes

Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1

Audio: Dolby Digital English 5.1, English, French 2.0

English Subtitles

Closed Captioned

Special Features: 5 Part Documentary, Deleted Scene, TV Spots, Theatrical Trailer

Suggested Retail Price: $19.99 USD
Release Date: August 23, 2005


The Feature

Peter Weir is one of the finest filmmakers working today. Witness was the film that introduced him to America.

It’s not that American audiences hadn’t taken notice to prior works, such as Gallipoli, and, more notably, The Year of Living Dangerously. But Witness brought the Australian director to our shores, and had him working with a cast of American actors. The film proved that Harrison Ford could break his renegade sci-fi adventure mold, and it made a star of untried actress Kelly McGillis and the young Lukas Haas. It also gave a then unknown actor his first taste for film acting - leading to an astounding career in recent years - one Viggo Mortensen.

Weir followed up Witness with a string of hits, including (but not limited to) Dead Poet’s Society, The Truman Show (also released this month in a special edition DVD), and Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World.

Weir made an unusual choice for his first American film, setting most of the film in a place that is decidedly unlike any other place in America. In Witness, a young Amish boy (Lukas Haas) witnesses a murder at a train station in Philadelphia. He and his mother, Rachel (Kelly McGillis) must stay in Philadelphia - until the investigation leads to dirty members of the police force. At that time, detective John Book (Ford), having been seriously injured in a gun fight, escapes with the mother and child and brings them back to Amish country, Lancaster, PA.

Rachel nurses Book back to health. Then, Book stays in hiding, trying to blend in with the Amish community as powerful forces hunt him and the young boy down. All the while, forbidden attraction builds between John and Rachel.

Witness is three films in one - it is a murder mystery, a dual-edged fish out of water story, and a love story. Weir balances all aspects tremendously well, and pulls incredible performances out of the entire cast. Additionally, the beautiful cinematography by John Seale and the haunting score by Maurice Jarre combine to make this one of the best films of the 80’s.

The film won an Oscar for Best Editing and Best Screenplay. It was nominated for Best Actor (Ford), Best Art Direction, Best Cinematography, Best Director, Best Music and Best Picture.

The Transfer
The picture is a mixed bag, in relation to the prior release of the film.

Witness is presented in an aspect ratio of approximately 1.85:1, and is anamorphically enhanced. The print used for the transfer is nearly spotless.

Colors are beautiful - earthy and nicely saturated. Black levels are very good, with good detail in the shadow areas. Whites are bright and slightly warm, blooming on occasion, by design.

The one area where the new edition doesn’t best the previous version is in sharpness. I have a mixed response to this. The original edition suffered from mild, but noticeable ringing due to over sharpening. The new version is mostly free of ringing or other sharpening artifacts, but has a slight loss of texture as a result. Noise is all but eliminated from the frame, high frequency detail has suffered as a result. Somewhere in between the two versions is the sweet spot.

If you’re considering upgrading only for a new transfer, you’ve got a tough choice. Warmer, richer colors and a slight opening of the frame are offset by a touch of softness.

I do not own the original version of the film on DVD. While I was able to screen parts of the original disc recently, I wasn’t able to get screen captures, or do a side-by-side A/B comparison for this review.

The audio is presented in Dolby Digital 5.1 (as well as in English and French 2.0). The 5.1 track delivers a nice, full experience. Dialog is always clear, full and intelligible. Music fills the front soundstage nicely, with some rear effect. Active and ambient sound effects occasionally make use of the rear channels to good effect. The low frequency effects are slightly lacking, but are adequate. This is a solid 5.1 mix for the film’s era.

Between Two Worlds: The Making of Witness - Five Part Documentary
Broken into five parts and totaling over an hour, this is a terrific documentary about the making of the film. Included are recent interviews with Peter Weir, Edward Feldman, Harrison Ford, Kelly McGillis, Lucas Haas, and Viggo Mortensen. Though not one of the chapter headings, there is a segment on the wonderful work of cinematographer John Seale, including some enlightening interviews with the cameraman. This segment was deserving of its own chapter.

In addition to the usual “making of” territory, there is much talk of the cultural divide between the Amish and the filmmakers who lived among them during principle photography. It was a positive learning experience, overall, for both cultures.

Here are the chapters:
Chapter One: Origins
Chapter Two: Amish Country
Chapter Three: The Artistic Process
Chapter Four: The Heart of the Matter
Chapter Five: Denouement


Deleted Scene (from the network TV airing) (4:10)
This scene is set at Book’s sister’s house, while Rachel and Samuel are staying there.

TV Spots
There are three TV spots with a “Play All” feature.
“Action”
“Love”
“John Book”

Theatrical Trailer (1:32)
full screen format

Previews
Airplane - Don’t Call Me Shirley Edition
Tommy Boy - Holy Schnikes Edition
The John Wayne Collection
MacGyver

Final Thoughts
A nice transfer, superior to the original release in some ways and slightly inferior in others, makes upgrading a tough choice on the strengths of the transfer alone. This is a nice transfer - just somewhat different from the previous release.

What is a strong selling point for this disc is the terrific one hour “making of” documentary, with considerable participation from Peter Weir, Harrison Ford, Kelly McGillis, Lukas Haas and others.

Overall, this single disc Special Collector’s Edition is:
Highly Recommended
Scott Kimball is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-21-2005, 09:17 PM   #2 of 29
Robert Crawford
Crawdaddy
Administrator
 
Location: Michigan
Join Date: Dec 1998
Local Time: 07:02 PM
Local Date: 10-10-2008
Posts: 18,204

Quote:
A nice transfer, superior to the original release in some ways and slightly inferior in others, makes upgrading a tough choice on the strengths of the transfer alone. This is a nice transfer - just somewhat different from the previous release.

I've read the debate on this issue in the DVD Beaver thread and I think the issue about the transfer is going to come down to personal preferences as to which dvd is more pleasing to your eyes.




Crawdaddy


G.W. McLintock: Camille, you're on your own.
Robert Crawford is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-22-2005, 03:39 AM   #3 of 29
Christian Preischl
Christian Preischl
Member
 
Location: Regensburg, Germany
Join Date: Oct 2001
Local Time: 01:02 AM
Local Date: 10-11-2008
Posts: 1,194

Okay, let me be the first one to bring this up: Could you please check if the missing line of dialogue has been reinserted in this DVD version?

Here's what I'm talking about:

Spoiler:
In the VHS version, just after John Book is shot, we see a close-up of his gun and a voice-over from an earlier conversation Book had with the captain. We hear the words: "Who else knows about this? "Just you and me." In the DVD version, we see the close-up of the gun and then it segues to Book's sister waking up Rachel and her son Samuel, minus the voice-over.


Can this be heard in any of the audio tracks?

Cheers,
Chris
Christian Preischl is online now Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-22-2005, 11:59 AM   #4 of 29
Marko Berg
Member
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Join Date: Mar 2002
Local Time: 02:02 AM
Local Date: 10-11-2008
Posts: 785

I was going to post what Christian asks above. It would be nice to know if the dialogue is present on the DVD. I seem to recall hearing this dialogue when the film was shown on TV here last.
Marko Berg is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-22-2005, 12:02 PM   #5 of 29
Tim Glover
Tim Glover
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Local Time: 05:02 PM
Local Date: 10-10-2008
Posts: 7,789

Send a message via AIM to Tim Glover
Wonderful film. I didn't buy the original version so this is a must.



A long time ago in a galaxy far, far way there was...Club Timobi Wan
but today there is...
Club Timobi Wan-Episode II
Tim Glover is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
HTF Ads



Sponsored links



Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-22-2005, 12:36 PM   #6 of 29
Tom Brennan
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Local Time: 07:02 PM
Local Date: 10-10-2008
Posts: 775

Send a message via AIM to Tom Brennan
The dialogue is still not on this disc.
Tom Brennan is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-22-2005, 08:29 PM   #7 of 29
PeterTHX
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Local Time: 04:02 PM
Local Date: 10-10-2008
Posts: 2,000

Quote:
The dialogue is still not on this disc.


Maybe it is only on the TV version?

Fox showed "Star Trek: Generations" on television and tiny trims here and there were added. So it wouldn't be unusual for Paramount to have done it for the TV version (edited anyway for language and violence).
PeterTHX is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-23-2005, 02:00 AM   #8 of 29
James Luckard
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Local Time: 04:02 PM
Local Date: 10-10-2008
Posts: 116

Aargh. I was so hoping those lines would be restored for this new disc. The lengthy shot of the gun has no real purpose except to fill time as these lines are heard, leading us directly into Book's taking Rachel into hiding. Without them, his thought process is not as clear.

Does anybody know if this voiceover exchange was heard in the original theatrical release? I know it was in every video and TV version I ever saw before the DVD.

For a "Special Edition" with such limited extras, this fixed audio was going to be a key selling point to convince me to upgrade, pity. I'll still probably do it, but it's disappointing.
James Luckard is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-23-2005, 02:25 AM   #9 of 29
JackKay
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Local Time: 04:02 PM
Local Date: 10-10-2008
Posts: 399

Now what I would really like to see is a new Special Edition of "The Year of Living Dangerously". Again with Peter Weir's Direction and again with Maurice Jarre's excellent score. I think it was Peter Weir's previous film.

P.S. It also has that Beautiful, Gorgeous, Immaculate Beauty, Heart Throbbing, Make Me Crazy - Love of My Life, Actress Sigourney Weaver!

I hope I haven't exposed my true feelings for her.

Also is there two versions of 'Year' out there? Or are they both the same? thanx.



You arn't dead until you read your Obituary in Variety.
JackKay is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 08-23-2005, 03:12 AM   #10 of 29
John*D
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Local Time: 11:02 PM
Local Date: 10-10-2008
Posts: 495

IGN gave this DVD a pretty poor review regarding the VIDEO quality and it made me thing twice about getting it...

Now I don't know what to do.


http://dvd.ign.com/articles/642/642536p1.html



John*D is offline