HTF REVIEW: Sin City - RECOMMENDED - Page 3

Haggai · 08-17-2005, 04:09 PM

Michael, that might be the only time Dogville and Sin City ever get mentioned in the same sentence.

Tim Glover · 08-17-2005, 04:27 PM

The image on this dvd was breathtaking. Not just the style of it all, but the quality of the image was a big WOW. Maybe one of the most detailed and cleanest looking dvd I own.

The audio was also top notch. I also agree with DaVid regarding the Dolby Digital track. Impressive. The dialogue is the best I've heard on my system. Ever.

The film...well...weird. I wasn't sure what to expect. Still not sure.

Need to see it again. But definately not your average, "honey, what do u want to watch tonight film". Very different.

DaViD Boulet · 08-17-2005, 05:06 PM

Tim,

what's your AV system like? I'm glad that your experience comports with my own.

Ron-P · 08-17-2005, 05:24 PM

David, I'm surprised that you did not notice the EE especially since you said (in the other thread) you were looking for it. I know it is not very noticeable and I was sitting at about a distance of 1.10 from my screen of 85" (I like being close) so maybe that played a part as well. But even from my back row which is 1.65 I still noticed it.

That was about the only grip I had otherwise the picture quality is about the best I've seen. The dts track as well, very clean. Most impressive.

DaViD Boulet · 08-17-2005, 05:29 PM

Ron,

very interesting. Tell us more about your video system (DVD player and projector). I'm assuming that other DVD titles come thru EE-free so that you're confident it's in the DVD encoding?

I know that some titles that look like they have "EE" on my projector look almost 100% EE-free on my friend's 1080P JCV PJ (driven by the top-end Pioneer HDMI DVD player) and given that the titles look *more detailed* on his system than on mine...I can only assume that his is more accurate...though it's still confusing since there are titles that have no EE at all on my system. All of this is saying that I'm totally comfortable that the same disc can look different in different systems without always a clear indication of which image is more faithful to the actual disc-encoding...sometimes it's a head-scratcher!

Dave Mack · 08-17-2005, 05:35 PM

Hey Dave, Ron, all... just to chime in, I saw a teeny bit of EE on my system which is an OPPO. upscaling DVD player with the latest firmware which allows the previous "sharpness" setting to be set in the OFF position, and an optoma h57 DLP FP.
I have a few titles with NO EE visible, even when zoomed so my equipment is pretty decent when it comes to that.

I only watched random bits last nite but I noticed EE in the opening scene and definitley in the credits. But it not bad at all and the overall pic. IS pretty stunning.

and to be honest, from previous posts, I will admit that I am very EE sensitive and find some discs like "Gangs of NY" virtually unwatchable so do take that into consideration.

Inspector Hammer! · 08-17-2005, 05:45 PM

Ron,
very odd that your seeing EE.

My modest system consists of an Infocus X1 projector connected to a Sony progressive scan dvd player through a set of VGA cables and projected onto a 96" DIY screen, and I saw no EE at all, just a crisp, clean image that blew me away.

I was sitting about 12' back from the screen BTW. I guess this is a case where the lesser systems aren't really revealing the flaws as badly as the better one's? But that still doesn't explain why David didn't see it, because his system is probably top notch.

Ron-P · 08-17-2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Ron,

very interesting. Tell us more about your video system (DVD player and projector). I'm assuming that other DVD titles come thru EE-free so that you're confident it's in the DVD encoding?

Like John above my video rig is quite modest. I am certain though that it's in the encoding. I have a Panasonic PT-L200u LCD projector and an 85" screen. I am running a 1.5 year old JVC progressive player.

Like Dave stated above, it is a "teeny" amount and like Dave I am also very sensitive to it. By all means is it no where near being distracting I just picked up on it right away. For most of the movie though I did not see it.

My audio system is a Timber matched Polk set up of 7 speakers and 6 Adcom amps with an Outlaw 950 pre/pro and ICBM and boy does this soundtrack shine. It's so clean and crisp with such great depth it's almost as if the actors were standing in front of me talking.

jez · 08-17-2005, 07:08 PM

Got my R3 today which imo has nicer packaging.

Just wondered if anyone knew if the transfer is the same to the R1?

Anyone do a bitrate for both?

Or perhaps a scene to check out the quality

ChrisKe · 08-17-2005, 07:19 PM

Jez, got a picture of the R3 cover or a URL?

Tim Glover · 08-17-2005, 10:36 PM

DaVid,

I have a Panasonic PT-L300U LCD projector. I'm using a matte white Draper 106 inch screen. I think the gain is .8 if that's even possible.

I saw no EE. I wasn't looking for it either but the image was incredibly rich. I can only imagine how better the blacks were on your DLP proj though. A couple of years ago the 300u was highly regarded but has since been replaced. Certainly no big $$ spent on it but it looked like I spent $10K for it when watching Sin City.

Audio consists of 3 NHT Evolution M6's for LCR. Currently my sub is out. NHT SB1 for surrounds (on loan). Pioneer THX-Ultra reciever and Panasonic Xp-30 dvd player.

Not sure if you wanted all that info but there it is. :b

As others have said, it felt like the actors were in my room. I only wish that were true of some of them.