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01-05-2005, 11:20 PM
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Ahh, such memories...
I can't believe this movie has been out for more than 10 years now. Blows my mind.
I also can't believe that with so many DVD releases, they can't clean up the video more, or make a better audio track. I know, it cost money and this movie was low budget to begin with. However, I seen other movies that haven't done half as well get a nice treatment.
I'm going to hold off one more time hoping another release (HD-DVD?) will come soon.
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01-06-2005, 12:21 PM
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I have the defective 1st edition on Leon, I got it through dvdexpress or reel.com when it first came out..
can I get a free replacement fron sony?
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01-06-2005, 12:27 PM
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Not for the Superbit. If it's the other one, then you might be able to. Do a search on old threads for info.
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01-06-2005, 12:30 PM
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If it was encoded without the 3:2 pulldown flag, this will be problematic for many folks with progressive scan players. See the recent recall of Universal's "Meaning of Life" thread (if it still exists). I hope this is not the case, but if it is, this disc should *not* be recommended, IMHO.
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Thanks for the explanation! What effect does that have on the image, exactly? I have a progressive scan player, and I want to be sure that I don't miss something like that in my review if it's important. How would I notice it?
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01-06-2005, 12:46 PM
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I've always wanted this film. I guess now is the time to cough up the dough. Thanks for the review.
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01-06-2005, 01:11 PM
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I checked out the old threads on Meaning of Life. . .can I assume that the pulldown errors would be clearly visible in a frame-by-frame examination?
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01-06-2005, 08:50 PM
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I checked out the old threads on Meaning of Life. . .can I assume that the pulldown errors would be clearly visible in a frame-by-frame examination?
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Yes. You'll see combing and other pixellated nasties in frame-by-frame. Some prog scan players do a good job with problematic material, and depending on how bad the encoding is, the player will switch to "video" mode (or switch back and forth on the fly from video to film mode) and you'll get a watchable (if softer) image - sometimes with aliasing and other artifacts. Most of the time, folks with prog scan players will get a compromised image when compared to a properly encoded title.
Folks were quick to slam Universal for the mis-flagged Meaning of Life, but at least they corrected the prob and offered a replacement (after the first replacement used the same faulty master, LOL - at least they finally got it right!)
I personally don't hold onto a DVD that doesn't have the proper 3:2 flag. Again, I don't have the new Leon, but based on that comment on DVDBeaver (which also has a screencap showing combing from the apparent lack of 3:2 pulldown), it doesn't look good.
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01-07-2005, 12:57 AM
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I did a frame-by-frame of several shots, including part of the scene that DVD Beaver got its screen cap from, and it all looked OK to me. (Every 5th frame was identical to the 4th, which seems appropriate for converting from 24fps to 30 fps.) I didn't see any cross-faded frames like the one shown on DVD Beaver.
My player is a Pioneer DV-563A. I don't know what its capabilities are in terms of dealing with these particular issues.
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01-07-2005, 01:30 AM
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If it's re-released in High Definition it will be on Blu-Ray, not HD-DVD seeing as how this is a Sony release.
I'll rent this version, and if I like it buy it on Blu-Ray (as long as they re-do the transfer with a much better negative).
Dan
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01-07-2005, 10:59 AM
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Looking forward to finally picking this up and checking it out. I've read lots of good things about it. With the confusion regarding the other pressings, I decided to hold off until they got it right. Sounds like they finally did.
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01-07-2005, 11:20 AM
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I'm pretty sure there's an HD transfer of The Professional around, because it was on HBO-HD's lineup a while back. I didn't get to see it though, so I have no idea what the quality is like (and I'm not sure if HBO-HD shows upconverts or not, so it could be that instead of an actual HD transfer).
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I don't have it in front of me, but I believe that the case does say "Mastered in High Definition" on the back. I'll double-check when I get home tonight. EDIT LATER: Yes, the case does say "Mastered In High Definition" on it.
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There are ways to find out for sure what the exact flagging on a DVD is, but the only one I know of is semi-complex (basically ripping the DVD to a PC's hard drive and using a codec analysis tool on it). I'll check it out when I pick this disc up.
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I would appreciate that. I'm not familiar with that technique. Does anyone know of an easy way to check the disc without actually ripping it?
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