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Old 06-15-2004, 07:34 PM   #31 of 135
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was conan on the monorail episode commentary? I didn't hear him on it.

When watching that episode use the audio button on your remote to cycle through the tracks, there you will find a second audio commentary that he appears in.


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Old 06-15-2004, 08:06 PM   #32 of 135
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Not to be pedantic, but Conan's leaving had nothing to do with any decline in the show. He was only working on the show for a year (he was there for the fourth season left after the first few episodes of season 5), and he was only a "producer" which in modern sitcoms just means a staff writer who ranks slightly higher than the story editors.


If my memory serves he was listed as writer on most of my favorite episodes.

There are many many many more great episodes to come before we start to see the decline in quality. It is the recent episodes where they repeat plot lines from earlier episodes.

The greatness of Season 4 is that its more abstract in its situations and humor without literally winking at the camera. One of the deadly sins the show commits now is explaining ironic moments to the audience like we are too dumb to get the joke.

All I am saying is that In my perfect world Conan would quit the talkshow game and go back to either SNL or Simpsons or both.
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:06 PM   #33 of 135
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Not to be pedantic, but Conan's leaving had nothing to do with any decline in the show. He was only working on the show for a year (he was there for the fourth season left after the first few episodes of season 5), and he was only a "producer" which in modern sitcoms just means a staff writer who ranks slightly higher than the story editors.


If my memory serves he was listed as writer on most of my favorite episodes.

There are many many many more great episodes to come before we start to see the decline in quality. It is the recent episodes where they repeat plot lines from earlier episodes.

The greatness of Season 4 is that its more abstract in its situations and humor without literally winking at the camera. One of the deadly sins the show commits now is explaining ironic moments to the audience like we are too dumb to get the joke.

All I am saying is that In my perfect world Conan would quit the talkshow game and go back to either SNL or Simpsons or both.
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:30 PM   #34 of 135
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Other TV box sets have only a few commentaries if any. I think the fact that we get a commentary on every episode is awesome. I think we are spoiled when it comes to theses box sets, and I'm lovin every minute of it.
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:30 PM   #35 of 135
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Other TV box sets have only a few commentaries if any. I think the fact that we get a commentary on every episode is awesome. I think we are spoiled when it comes to theses box sets, and I'm lovin every minute of it.
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:35 PM   #36 of 135
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If my memory serves he [Conan O'Brien] was listed as writer on most of my favorite episodes.

O'Brien was the credited writer on three Simpsons episodes: "New Kid on the Block" (Bart falls in love with the Sara Gilbert character), "Marge vs. the Monorail," and "Homer Goes to College." Plus he wrote the "Night Gallery" linking segments in the Season 5 Halloween special (that was probably the last thing he wrote for the show before leaving).

I'm not saying he isn't a funny guy, I'm just saying that he was never a high-ranking writer on the show (because he left before he could be promoted), and there are at least a dozen other writers who had more to do with the show's success than he did, but it's always "Conan O'Brien should come back," simply because he's the most recognizable name.
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:35 PM   #37 of 135
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If my memory serves he [Conan O'Brien] was listed as writer on most of my favorite episodes.

O'Brien was the credited writer on three Simpsons episodes: "New Kid on the Block" (Bart falls in love with the Sara Gilbert character), "Marge vs. the Monorail," and "Homer Goes to College." Plus he wrote the "Night Gallery" linking segments in the Season 5 Halloween special (that was probably the last thing he wrote for the show before leaving).

I'm not saying he isn't a funny guy, I'm just saying that he was never a high-ranking writer on the show (because he left before he could be promoted), and there are at least a dozen other writers who had more to do with the show's success than he did, but it's always "Conan O'Brien should come back," simply because he's the most recognizable name.
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Old 06-16-2004, 03:06 AM   #38 of 135
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OK now I see your point. Very interesting and I think accurate observation. We recognize that name and are nostalgic for the mid 90's episodes and credit Conan for something he really had little to do with LOL.

Thanks for the info Jaime.

I'll just have to say that the from season 4 till about 1998 or so were my favorite years for the show the first three seasons where OK and the recent years have been embarrassing.

I will no longer credit Conan for the "good" year tho.
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Old 06-16-2004, 03:06 AM   #39 of 135
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OK now I see your point. Very interesting and I think accurate observation. We recognize that name and are nostalgic for the mid 90's episodes and credit Conan for something he really had little to do with LOL.

Thanks for the info Jaime.

I'll just have to say that the from season 4 till about 1998 or so were my favorite years for the show the first three seasons where OK and the recent years have been embarrassing.

I will no longer credit Conan for the "good" year tho.
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Old 06-16-2004, 03:45 AM   #40 of 135
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Bizzarro world reporting:

Picked my set up at Costco today AND...

Scratches on 4th disc. Was firmly seated in the hub (not a "floater").

TWO, count 'em, TWO copies of Disc 3. No Disc 2! I put them both in to be sure disc 2 wasn't mislabed somehow. Sure enough, two copies of disc 3.

Anyone else have problems? Have to wait until Thursday to swap 'em out. Are ALL of Costco's run like this?
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Old 06-16-2004, 03:45 AM   #41 of 135
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Bizzarro world reporting:

Picked my set up at Costco today AND...

Scratches on 4th disc. Was firmly seated in the hub (not a "floater").

TWO, count 'em, TWO copies of Disc 3. No Disc 2! I put them both in to be sure disc 2 wasn't mislabed somehow. Sure enough, two copies of disc 3.

Anyone else have problems? Have to wait until Thursday to swap 'em out. Are ALL of Costco's run like this?
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Old 06-16-2004, 06:03 AM   #42 of 135
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I got my set at Costco (for $21 plus tax, after $10 coupon) and just opened it. No duplicate dics and no conspicuous scratches or defects. I wouldn't, however, be surprised if there are a bunch of bad collections out there, given FOX's track record re manufacturing problems.

BTW, my store still had a bunch of FOX animated sets with coupons for $10 off season 4.
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