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10-11-2004, 10:45 AM
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Yes you are correct. The Sears salesman had no idea what he was talking about. To be hi def, it's got to be in 16x9 and 5.1 dolby digital (with 1080i or 720p lines of resolution).
Odds are, either they didn't have a hi def signal and they weren't using a stretch mode on the TV, or it was a hi def feed but that particular baseball game was not being broadcast in HD (meaning the TV can't stretch it because it sees the feed coming in as HD)
And you are right, if a store constantly leaves a CRT based (or plasma) with the bars at the side, you DEFINATELY don't want that display unit!
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10-11-2004, 10:52 AM
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FOX had pretty decent 16:9 content running on the games yesterday at least... I find it curious somewhat. I would never call that true HD to anybody. Gotta be 16:9 native programming at a minimum.
Hard to say what exactly they had running in these most transitional to HD days.
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10-11-2004, 11:08 AM
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John,
I imagine that most TV stations are upconverting the signals. Of course, I can't say that with conviction, because I have no idea if Fox, NBC, or any other network has scrapped thier very expensive broadcast cameras and replaced them with new HD cams.
Unless the camera shooting the broadcast is a true HD camera, it just ain't HD IMO.
I just finished shooting a commercial in true HD and all I can say is wow. It's not just crisp and clean, but so film-like it isn't funny. Goodbye Kodak! (Not a statement I make with any real glee, by the way, I love shooting on film...but after what I saw last week...wow)
Oh and that salesman...not well informed...not informed at all, actually.
Ni!!
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10-11-2004, 11:19 AM
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To be hi def, it's got to be in 16x9
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My local HD channels have broadcast programming that sure looks like it's HD resolution but that isn't full 16:9.
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10-11-2004, 11:27 AM
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It sounds like they were showing ESPN HD, which puts the HD side bars on SD material. The salesman was correct in saying that he couldn't remove the bars and it still be in HD, if he switched to regular ESPN, he could stretch the picture, but it still wouldn't be in HD.
Rocky
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10-11-2004, 01:42 PM
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what rocky said 
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10-11-2004, 02:06 PM
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I concur.
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To be hi def, it's got to be in 16x9 and 5.1 dolby digital (with 1080i or 720p lines of resolution).
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This isnt true either. I have DirecTv HD, and in this package I have Discovery HD. Not all of their shows are in surround sound, some are just stereo. Infact, last night I watched "Tentacles" it was about cephalopods and if they have a visual language. it was in 2.1
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10-11-2004, 03:43 PM
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The broadcasting standard for HD IS in fact 16x9 and surround sound.
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The salesman was correct in saying that he couldn't remove the bars and it still be in HD
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If it had the side bars, it wasn't truly HD to begin with. All 'HD Stations' will upconvert conventional 4x3 SD material to HD (and fill the sides of the screen with words or grey or black bars, but it is still not truly HD since it was not filmed in HD (and it surely doesn't resemble the PQ of a true HD broadcast) |
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10-12-2004, 08:20 AM
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