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[ My z1 arrived today, took some snapshots ]

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Old 08-14-2004, 04:42 AM   #1 of 41
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edited out pics to reduce load times, updated pics at bottom of thread
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Old 08-14-2004, 07:47 AM   #2 of 41
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Just couldn't wait to see what it looked like

Get your screen set up, get some component cables and we will see you in a couple of months when you come up for air.
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Old 08-14-2004, 05:53 PM   #3 of 41
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Congratulations. How do you find the contrast ratio (blacks) with the 10' size?




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Old 08-14-2004, 06:59 PM   #4 of 41
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I cant seem to get the settings right
WHOA!!! Could've fooled me!
Those screenies look great. I wonder how good they'd look if everything was set up "right"?
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Old 08-14-2004, 09:06 PM   #5 of 41
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I assume you have a calibration disk like DVE, VE or AVIA. Based solely on these pics as viewed from my computer monitor they look a little heavy on the green or lacking on the red perhaps. Once you get the final screen in place you can calibrate at that time.




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Old 08-15-2004, 08:45 PM   #6 of 41
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I used the sound and vision calibration disc and it made the imgaes worse, today I resetted to original specs and the images looks tons better, I just up'd the sharpness, I like it better that way then when i used the calibration disc.
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:48 AM   #7 of 41
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Congratulations. How do you find the contrast ratio (blacks) with the 10' size?


it is a problem with dark movies, even with controlled lighting, I was watching SWAT today and the dark scenes look too muddy and undefined, while bright scenes look incredible.

But ive always thought it was due to my bare wall screen, I will be getting large manual glass beaded screen. Hopefull that will help, But ya contrast issues are a problem during dark scenes.
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Old 08-16-2004, 11:47 AM   #8 of 41
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A calibration disc would help you control the shadow detail. Sounds like you need to up the brightness level a little.

The tint problem in the screenshots could be attributed to an incorrect camera white balance setting, and may not be a big problem with the projector itself. Damn variables!



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Old 08-16-2004, 11:59 AM   #9 of 41
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David,

Hold that Glass Beaded screen! It will be a deplorable choice for a LCD PJ like the Z1. You'll get a big Hot Spot in the center.

Better to paint that wall with any one of several special paint formulas.

Or....., go to my Gallerys and view some screenies of Light Fusion Mirror screens that will show you what to aspire to in DIY screens.

All screen shots were taken off 110" diagonal screens cut from 5' x 8' x 1/8" mirror to a size of 54.4" x 96". (16:9 format) The photos were taken with a 2 year old 4.2 MP Toshiba M-81 Digicam, set on Auto Exp -Auto Focus. NO post processing was done, save resizing the images down from a whopping 2400 x 1800 pixels to a size somewhat more tractible for posting onto the web.



http://www.hometheaterforum.com/gall...n-Screen-shots

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http://www.yorkphoto.com/thumbnailsh...55/t_=12338494

On the last link, you have to register to veiw the photos. Don't worry though, they do NOT sell your info to spammers.

Post mail me back and tell me what you think.


Most of the Paint formulas I've created were originally designed to compliment the Z1 (lumen AND Contrast challenged) & X1 PJs. (4:3 ) Enhanced contrast, without sacrificing brillant whites, and a drastic reduction of Screen Door Effect (SDE) and video artifacts were the main objectives. All that and more were accomplished. Shoot an image onto Light Fusion from a High Def DLP-Lycos-DILA PJ of 1000 + lumens and you'll never stop getting over the end results. Neither will your Buds.

I'm here on HTF to help bring this type of DIY'ism to those of you who desire to spend less than $150.00 in materials to achieve a screen application that has been matched up against the much touted Silver Star ($1800 +) and the StudioTek 130 ($1600 +) and met or exceeded thier performance on all counts.


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Max up there sez:
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The tint problem in the screenshots could be attributed to an incorrect camera white balance setting, and may not be a big problem with the projector itself. Damn variables! Unquote.

Nope. The Z1 does indeed have "tint" issues, and produces a deffinate Blue push. This can be offset by both calibration, and using a very small amount of Red Oxide (1/96 oz droplett) added to any specific "White" paint mix.



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