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Old 04-24-2006, 11:52 PM   #1 of 41
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Can itunes work with non-ipod mp3 players?


I'm posting here in computers because this is more a software issue than anything else.

We have two ipods and two other mp3 players in our house, and we use all of them. The ipods are new, so I'm new to itunes (previously used Musicmatch Jukebox). I'm trying to organize and coordinate my music files. I'd like to use itunes exclusively, but I have a feeling it won't play well with the other mp3s.

Is there a way to make this work?

If so, how do I go about loading tunes (mp3 format) onto the non-ipods via itunes?

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Old 04-25-2006, 12:48 PM   #2 of 41
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Re: Can itunes work with non-ipod mp3 players?


Right now, iTunes will only sync with iPods. Officially. There are supposedly hacks that can get around this but I haven't heard anything solid about them.



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Old 04-25-2006, 02:37 PM   #3 of 41
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Re: Can itunes work with non-ipod mp3 players?


Also beware any converting back and forth. If you convert AAC stuff to MP3, you do another round of lossy conversion - transcoding. This will have an impact on sound quality (and I think most of us realize it won't be for the better.)

Here is a link that discusses Apple and it's C.R.A.P.



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Old 04-25-2006, 03:34 PM   #4 of 41
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Also beware any converting back and forth. If you convert AAC stuff to MP3, you do another round of lossy conversion - transcoding. This will have an impact on sound quality (and I think most of us realize it won't be for the better.)

iTunes does not require that the music files it manages to be in AAC format. It handles MP3 files natively, too. All 9,000+ music files I've encoded and manage within iTunes are MP3 format.

Like Paul, I seem to remember reading of some hacks to iTunes to allow it to see certain non-iPod MP3 players, but I cannot remember all the details. You may want to do a search of the iTunes forum on www.ilounge.com .


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Old 04-25-2006, 10:39 PM   #5 of 41
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Here is a link that discusses Apple and it's C.R.A.P.

Imagine that...a website devoted to peer to peer file sharing whining about DRM.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:01 AM   #6 of 41
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Re: Can itunes work with non-ipod mp3 players?


C.R.A.P. is bad for everyone. Like now, when Jon would like to be able to use his legally aquired music on all his devices, not just one type at a time. That the site happened to be a P2P-friendly one has nothing to do with anything.



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Old 04-27-2006, 06:43 AM   #7 of 41
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whining about DRM

...is something everyone should do.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:37 PM   #8 of 41
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when Jon would like to be able to use his legally aquired music on all his devices, not just one type at a time.
But the only DRM music you have to worry about is the stuff you've purchased from iTunes. Other than that, iTunes and iPods still work with MP3's (from other sites) and will also compress CD's into AAC without DRM.

So it's really only a big issue if you allow it to be.




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Old 05-01-2006, 11:52 AM   #9 of 41
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Re: Can itunes work with non-ipod mp3 players?


It's an issue if you want to have a non-iTunes based setup. Anything you purchase from the iTunes Music Store will only work in iTunes or on an iPod. Anything else and you're out of luck unless you transcode. So don't buy from ITMS you say? Well, it's kind of rude to tell my brother to un-buy the $25 iTunes credit he gave me for Christmas. I've also gotten free songs from iTunes from buying anything from batteries to cheerios. I've got about 50 songs I consider worthless because they are iTunes based.

Other than freebies and gifts I'll never buy a song from iTunes. I'll never buy an iPod, ever. Apple not only uses DRM (I can't fault them for that), but they make every DRM annoyance worse by closing off their software AND their hardware. They could sell the ability to play their songs in other software, much the way Microsoft does with WMA, but Apple refuses to make this possible. They could enhance their iPods to support DRM-protected music purchased from other sources, but they refuse to. They can afford to be uncooperative because they have a near monopoly. Their approach locks people into their products and services. Or in my case it locks me out.
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Old 05-01-2006, 02:11 PM   #10 of 41
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Re: Can itunes work with non-ipod mp3 players?


C.R.A.P. only inconveniences hon