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03-27-2003, 02:40 PM
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Recording to MP3
I have several old vinel(sp?) records that I would love to put onto my computer... I haven't checked yet, but I'm pretty sure my sound card has a line in jack...but I don't know what program I can use to do this? I know I can't use Windows sound recorder, as that only does 60s wav's...
It would be great if someone could recommend a program that can create MP3's from line in.....thnx....
PS... will the volume have to be adjusted somehow? I heard somewhere that turntables have very low sound output.
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03-27-2003, 03:18 PM
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I would reccomend initially recording the input into a wav then recompressing the wav into a MP3. through this method there is less chance of skipping in the mp3 (skips are caused when the computer hits 100% usage and can no longer encode on the fly for a brief moment).
and yes turntables need a pre-amp to make their inputs line-level, that's why a lot of recievers have a seperate input for them (phono). should be able to find one at radio shack for cheap.
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03-27-2003, 03:26 PM
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High Criteria's TotalRecorder is a cheap ($11) & easy app to use for recording to WAV or a compressed format.
I recommend using TotalRecorder to record to WAV and then compress to a VBR MP3 with Lame.
If any clean up needs to be done, do it on the WAV (Syntrillium's CoolEdit, $60, is good for this) before compression.
The part number for the RadioShack preamp is: 970-1018; costs $25 new. NB some turntables (like the sub $150 Sony, AudioTechnica, and Denon have builtin preamps).
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03-27-2003, 03:51 PM
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Thnx...
well, buying software seems to be out of the question, as I am only 16...and don't really want to buy any software (you know, the whole limited income thing)...
what do you mean NB???
I haven't bought one yet, but will in the near future... if I were to buy one with a built in preamp, would I still be able to connect it to the phono input on my reciever, or would I have to connect it to another input?
Thank you for the input...
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03-27-2003, 04:27 PM
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if your tt has a built in amp, then you would connect it to a regular "line-level" input - essentially any input other than the phono.
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03-27-2003, 04:32 PM
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essentially any input other than the phono.
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well, that gives me a decision...get a TT w/o pre-amp, and buy one for $25 to connect to computer, or get one with and connect to a line level input...
I think I might go with the seperate pre-amp route, as I want to keep the line-level inputs on my reciever open for other components...
That is, unless someone can give me a reason why not...
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03-28-2003, 02:19 PM
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but all the turntable preamps can be bypassed so you can connect to the phono input.
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Is there a switch on the actual unit that would do this, or would I have to open the Thurntable up in order to bypass it?
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What's your budget so I can give you some specific recommendations?
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Again, you have to take into consideration the limited income issue. I would be willing to spend no more than $160 CDN... Though I may be able to get some of the money from my parents (most of the records we have are theirs, and they no doubt would love to hear them)
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For software, if you don't want to spend any money check your system to see if you have a serviceable package. Both my sound card (Voyetra Audiostation) and CDRW drive (Nero WAV Editor) came with WAV recording/editing software that may do the job. Then compress the WAV with Lame (free).
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I have Nero (it came with my CDRW)...I'm just not sure if I have the wav editor... if it does, then I'll have to get Lame to perform the second step.
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you can also search for free software: Steinberg Cubasis InWired, Audacity, ProTools, MusicMatch.
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I already have MusicMatch (I don't like it, but it's required for my MP3 player). Though I wouldn't mind trying the other suggested products...
Thanks for your help.
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03-30-2003, 12:18 PM
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Is there a switch on the actual unit that would do this, or would I have to open the Thurntable up in order to bypass it?
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Depends. Some (Audio-Technica, Denon) have the switch under the platter. From the picture I can't tell where Sony put its switch - maybe on the bottom of the plinth. You are not going to be able to switch while playing a record but its really not much trouble.
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Again, you have to take into consideration the limited income issue. I would be willing to spend no more than $160 CDN... Though I may be able to get some of the money from my parents (most of the records we have are theirs, and they no doubt would love to hear them)
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I didn't realize your budget was that constrained - this could be difficult. 160 CDN is about US $110 (I'll be using US prices). You may have to go used (ebay, audiogon; I've seen old Dual 'tables for $40 at Goodwill). Sony, Teac and Audio-Technica have new 'tables for $99. J&R sells a refurbished Technics BD20 'table for $70 (this does not have a preamp; not sure if cartridge is included) or new for $130. This is a step up from Sony/AT and can take the Grado p-mount cartridges. The Denon is $150 (but I think the Technics sounds better - better tracking, cleaner). For $180 you can have Music Hall MMf-1 which is a audiophile-style manual 'table - sounds a lot better but usability suffers to switch between 33 and 45 you have to remove the platter and move the belt onto a different pulley.
In summary, ranked from best sounding (to my ear anyways thru the Little Rat Preamp, RadioShack headphone amp & Grado SR-40 headphones, using stock cartridges)
MusicHall MMF-1 $180
Technics BD20 $130
Denon DP-29F $150
Audio-Technica AT50 $100
Sony PS-LX250 $100
Teac P-A688 $100
If I were you I'd give one of the last three and the Denon & Technics a listen. If you can't hear a difference go for the cheaper option. Please audition the 'table with a well-used record as some cheap 'tables don't track well.
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I have Nero (it came with my CDRW)...I'm just not sure if I have the wav editor... if it does, then I'll have to get Lame to perform the second step.
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The Nero editor has noise reduction options so its a good one to use.
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I already have MusicMatch (I don't like it, but it's required for my MP3 player).
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MusicMatch can do the job of recording to WAV. I'm not impressed with its MP3 encoding. With RazorLame you can setup a batch job to convert to MP3
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