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Old 10-02-2006, 11:28 PM   #1 of 8
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Need opinions please


My home theater consists of a Pioneer VSX D812 receiver (110 w per ch), a Philips DVP 642 DVD player (one that plays divx, etc), Kenwood KS-401HT speakers (the 2 front spkrs on space taking stands), and a decent Sony 120 W 12" sub. I was thinking of selling it all on eBay (except maybe the sub), and buying this

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4910118

I'm basically looking to save space (mainly with the speakers) and figure that the built in DVD player in this unit is basically the same one that I am using now. It says this unit puts out 250 W per ch. which is more than double of what I have now. I'm looking for opinions on which setup everyone will think is better and if I'll be losing sound quality by buying this system

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Old 10-02-2006, 11:38 PM   #2 of 8
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Ok, any particular reason you want Phillips brand? If your going to get a Home theater in a box type setup I think Onkyo and Denon are your best bets.

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1)I think your going to be dissipointed by the amount of money your going to get on Ebay for your current gear. Nothing is very desirable and I think in the end shipping costs on things like the speakers are going to make them unsellable.

2)Theres not a snowballs chance in hell that little thing puts out 250wpc. Theres $2,000 2 channel amps that dont produce that much power. It might manage 25 wpc.

3)Yes its true that a built in dvd player will save space, however that means when the dvd player stops working, the whole thing is junk. I would suggest that having those 2 things seperate would be ideal.



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Old 10-02-2006, 11:42 PM   #3 of 8
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Re: Need opinions please


I chose the Philips brand because it seemed like a great deal. Like I said...it states 250w pr ch amd it's under $200. Not really worried about the a mount of money I'll get on ebay really.
Anyway ..."25 wpc"??? How can they advertise 250 if its only really 25?
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:47 PM   #4 of 8
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You will have to show me where you saw that written. I dont care if its written all over the unit in gold leaf though. Its not 250 wpc.

Have you personally listened to it?

Edit- I see it

"System Power

1000W (RMS) System
250W (RMS) Front Speaker(s)
250W (RMS) Center Speaker
250W (RMS) Rear Speaker(s)
250W (RMS) Subwoofer"

Yea, thats just a flat out lie. Don't beleive it. Besides, watts dont have much to do with good sound. Maybe they forgot the decimal point.




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Old 10-02-2006, 11:58 PM   #5 of 8
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Re: Need opinions please


so you think the audio quality this unit puts out will be worse than what I already have? My speakers arent all that great but i have a pretty decent receiver.

I'm actually looking to just save some space. I'm looking to get a decent set of speakers (pref the same size that come with the Philips model). Do you have any recommendations?
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:19 AM   #6 of 8
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Philips says that they're 3 ohm speakers. Furthermore, the satellite speakers are full range: only the centre speaker actually has a tweeter.

Quite a few firms make small satellite speakers: Polk (though their crossovers are strange), Infinity, B&W, Orb Audio, the firm that shall not be named...
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:29 AM   #7 of 8
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Philips says that they're 3 ohm speakers. Furthermore, the satellite speakers are full range: only the centre speaker actually has a tweeter.


I am not really knowledgable on speakers ... does this mean they are not good?
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Old 10-03-2006, 01:54 AM   #8 of 8
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Hmm. Typical speakers use multiple drivers to handle different frequencies. For instance, my speakers use a 6.5 inch midrange driver to produce sound from 48 Hz to 4000 Hz, and a tweeter to produce the highs: 4000 Hz to 42000 Hz). Anything lower is handled by the subwoofer.
The speakers contain a circuit board known as a crossover that sends the highs to the tweeter, and the lows to the midrange.

Cheaply made speakers use a single driver, and blurry sound can result. (It is possible to design a good, single driver speaker, but not inexpensively.) Conversely, a well designed multiple driver speaker can fill a room with sound, yet still allow the listener to identify where in space a particular sound is coming from.

It is possible to inflate the Wattage specification of an amplifier by specifying a lower impedence.
For instance, I have a 75 W receiver. That's into 8 ohms. The spec sheet also says that it has a dynamic power output of 160W (3 ohm). It's essentially meaningless. Halve the ohms, double the power (given sufficient current-- which the phillips will most probably not provide.)

IIRC, the Pioneer is a pretty decent receiver. You should be able to find a
set of satellite speakers that won't look too bulky, and would probably improve on your existing system.

(*Those particular speakers have a frequency response of ~130Hz -- 20 kHz and are really intended for use with a matching subwoofer. They contain 3 inch midranges and 1 inch tweeters). Not really my cup of tea, but they don't take up that much space.
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