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03-19-2004, 09:46 PM
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DVI DVD Player
I have finally ordered my front porjector (Infocus 5700) and I am in the market for a DVD player with DVI output. Other than the Bravo D1, what else is out there? When will the DVD player come out?
John
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03-20-2004, 01:11 AM
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Denon DVD-5900, Marantz DV8400, and the Samsung DVD-HD931 all have DVI outs. There is speculation that Denon will come out with an additional model at a lower price point than the 5900, but i don't have any additional information as to when it would actually be available for purchase.
No Signature...How boring is that!
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03-20-2004, 07:22 AM
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You forgot the LG 7832, another DVI-player that is already out, that can upscale through component also. Faroudja FLI2310 inside...
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03-21-2004, 05:56 AM
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The Denon and Marantz are very expensive while the Bravo and Samsung have very mixed reviews (with the exception of picture quality through DVI). I have heard that Bravo is coming out with the D3 model in the near future which will hopefully corect some of the flaws of the D1. Anyone have any info on the D3?
John
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04-08-2004, 05:07 PM
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I am unfamiliar with the LG you mentioned... i see also that you own one, is there a site that has specs for it? i'm in the market for a dvi out player.... ive been considering the Momitsu v880 because of the all region and pal converting features, but was unaware of this one.
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04-08-2004, 05:31 PM
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The new players should be available soon, since we're well into Q2.
This is the press release from the V Inc site:
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
SUBJECT: V INC. ANNOUNCES BRAVO DVD PLAYER UPDATES AND SET TOP LINE INTRODUCTIONS
Bravo D2 Updates Line’s Award-winning MPEG-4 SCALING DVI DVD Player
Bravo D3 HD DVD Player Integrates high definition WMV9 and HighMAT Formatting
Bravo HD1 ATSC Set Top Receiver Scales SD & HD to 480p/1080i/720p
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA. and LAS VEGAS, NV (CES) – January 6, 2004 - V Inc., the multiple award-winning digital display maker, marks its first anniversary with two new Bravo DVD media players and a HDTV receiver.
Bravo media players add industry-firsts and performance with the addition of the Bravo D2, Bravo D3 and Bravo HD1. The reviewer’s choice and award-winning Bravo D1 gets an update in the Bravo D2. The 480p/1080i/720p/custom scaling MPEG-4 DVD/media player adds control of brightness and contrast on DVI, enhanced DVD-ROM drive, improved analog video output and a new remote control. Available in the V Inc. titanium finish, the Bravo D2 will be shipping in February with a suggested retail price of $249.99.
The Bravo D3 allows the brand to continue with a first-ever badge in offering a HD DVD player with enhanced REALmagic HD deinterlacing and integrated Windows Media Player 9 HD decoding with HighMAT formatted playback. The Bravo D3 will be shipping in Q’2 with a suggested retail price of $349.99. (For more information regarding the Bravo D3, see release on separate cover.)
To provide more affordable HDTV systems to consumers, V Inc. is also offering the Bravo HD1 ATSC/NTSC receiver. It will output over-the-air high definition signals in resolutions of 480p, 1080i and 720p and standard definition NTSC signals at 480i. Video outputs include component video, S-video and composite formats. Audio can be output in 2-channel analog on RCA or digital bitstream on S/PDIF coaxial digital. Inputs include RF UHF/VHF antenna, composite video and 2-channel audio. Available in the V Inc. titanium finish, the Bravo HD1 will be shipping in February with a suggested retail price of $349.99.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
V INC. ANNOUNCES BRAVO HD DVD PLAYER WITH WINDOWS MEDIA VIDEO 9 AND HIGHMAT PLAYBACK
V Inc. Bravo D3 Home HD DVD Media Player is First to Announce Support for High Definition WMV9 and HighMAT Formatted Playback
Powered by Sigma Design’s New EM8620L Single Solution on-chip Processor with REALmagic HD Decoding and Processing
Windows Media Video 9 Provides Better Compression for Streaming and Storing Content with Full Digital Rights Management Protection for HD Content
FOUNTAIN VALLEY, CA. and LAS VEGAS, NV (CES) – January 6, 2004 - V Inc., the multiple award-winning digital display maker, today announced the first high definition DVD player with Windows Media Video 9 and HighMAT formatted playback. Powered by Sigma Design’s (Nasdaq: SIGM) EM8620L on-chip processor, the Bravo D3 also provides pure perfect DVD playback via DVI output in high-resolution 480p, 1080i and 720p formats. Expected to ship in Q’2 2004 with a target retail of $349.99, the Bravo D3 is consistent with V Inc.’s mission to bring practical technological innovation to consumer electronics products while maintaining operational simplicity and value.
The Bravo D3 will also include DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD, CD-R/RW playback. The Bravo D3 is the first DVD player capable of playing MPEG2, MPEG4 and WMV9 in High Definition. Audio decoding includes WMA9, WMA Pro, WMA lossless, Dolby Digital, MP3, MPEG-1/2 (layers 1, 2, and 3) and MPEG-4 AAC. The player supports Dolby Digital and DTS® multi-channel audio pass-through on Toslink optical and S/PDIF coaxial digital outputs. The player features NTSC/PAL output in composite and S-Video formats with interlaced or progressive component video output in 480i, 480p, 1080i, 720p and user-definable linear and non-linear resolutions.
Any form of decoded content can be output in a direct digital DVI-HDTV video RGB format
keeping the display free from analog conversion artifacts. Beyond the normal decoding of content, the player will offer REALmagic scaling and scan conversion with appropriate 3:2 pull down, advanced display processing including, programmable linear and non-linear scaling, a 5-plane video mixer, adaptive de-interlacing, adaptive flicker filtering and pixel-based alpha mixing - all free of annoying interlaced chroma problems. The player’s component video output will be limited to 480p on playback of DVD content when CSS copy protection is found. The player’s DVD drive and processor will be second to none with transparent layer changes and a convenient zoom function for non-anamorphic content rendering.
“We’re extremely pleased with our successor to the popular Bravo D1. By integrating Windows Media Video 9 decoding, the Bravo D3 continues our goal of making more high definition content readily available for HDTVs,” stated William Wang, CEO of V Inc.
The Sigma Designs EM8620L Media Processor
The new EM8620L media processor from Sigma Designs provides a complete single-chip solution for IP video set-top boxes, DVD receivers and DVD players. The EM8620L offers a wide range of media processing functions for video decoding, audio decoding, and graphics processing based on REALmagic HD technology, for the highest quality image possible on high definition displays. For single-chip systems, it features an on-chip RISC processor, PCI-bus IDE controller and additional peripheral ports for supporting other subsystems. Configured with standard front-end components, the EM8620L provides a full-featured solution for advanced set-top appliances.
“As the demand for more ubiquitous video along with high-definition features continues to increase, the popularity of new advanced CODECS such as Microsoft’s Windows Media 9 Series will no doubt rise,” said Ken Lowe, VP of strategic marketing of Sigma Designs. “At this point, we are seeing substantial momentum towards the use of Windows Media Video 9 for IP video solutions that can deliver high-quality video streaming, as well as DVD players such as V Inc.’s Bravo D3 that can accept the widening range of video formats.”
About Windows Media Video 9 and HighMAT Formatting
The entertainment industry is examining technologies such as Windows Media 9 Series, which provides better compression efficiency for streaming and storing digital media content and supports full digital rights management protection, where it was previously not possible. Driven primarily by increased compression efficiency, network providers can now offer a new range of high-quality, high-resolution video services over bandwidth-limited networks. Additionally, with both published DVD and user-created content beginning to appear, WMV9 support looms on the horizon as the new must-have feature for enthusiasts buying DVD players. These DVD players will be able to read and navigate a mixture of video, audio, and image content created using the new HighMAT format, a standard established jointly by Matshushita and Microsoft.
The Windows Media Video HD format of a “Terminator 2” bonus DVD from Artisan studios in June of 2003 was the first evidence of an underlying movement to deliver a large number of titles encoded in HD. Concurrently, the amount of compelling downloadable and streaming video content is also building up rapidly, and can be accessed from Web-sites such as at CinemaNow, iFilm, Movielink, Movie Magix, netcine, SkyPerfecTV, WOWOW and BMWfilms.com. Aside from commercially available content, Windows Movie Maker 2, Microsoft’s easy to use video editing feature of Windows XP, is another tool that’s providing consumers with loads of home movies.
About Sigma Designs, Inc.
Sigma Designs (Nasdaq: SIGM) specializes in silicon-based MPEG decoding for streaming video, progressive DVD playback, and advanced digital set-top boxes. The company’s award-winning REALmagic® Video Streaming Technology is used in both commercial and consumer applications providing highly integrated solutions for high-quality decoding of MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4. Headquartered in Milpitas, Calif., the company also has sales offices in China, Europe, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea and Taiwan. For more information, please visit the company’s web site.
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04-23-2004, 01:49 PM
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Even if you have a progressive scan dvd player, should you have lines on the screen? I hooked up my dvd player to my new 50" Hitachi LCD projection, and I still see lines....and a lot of noise too....not sure what I am doing wrong....
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04-23-2004, 01:58 PM
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The LG7832 is only available in Canada. The Zenith DVB318 is supposed to be its U.S. equivalent, but I'm not sure if the Zenith can upscale via component as the LG can.
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04-23-2004, 03:36 PM
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According to the thread at AVS, the DVB318 can upscale via component.
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04-23-2004, 10:32 PM
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Based on what I have read for the past while, the LG 7832 player's DVI capabilities are quite suspect. Until LG properly fixes the DVI issues via firmware or other, I would not consider it for DVI. Upconversion to 720p and 1080i via component video is regarded as quite good, comparatively.
Dave
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