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Old 11-10-2003, 12:30 PM   #1 of 21
John Garcia
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I picked up a 910 this weekend to try out. PQ was not especially impressive, but it has good color and it's progressive film mode is definitley better than my TV's. The problem is, on slow scenes, pauses and menus, the image jitters randomly, and only in progressive mode - if I put it in interlaced, it works fine.

I will eventually pick up a 2900, and I was just looking for an interim progressive player for now. Display - KV34HS510.

Next question: is the Si deinterlacer in the 2200 the same SiI504 from the 2900 or is it different, since this is the next player I will likely try out when I return the 910.



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Old 11-10-2003, 07:36 PM   #2 of 21
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The image jitter you notice on menus, etc. on the DVD-910 is because they incorrectly turned set CSS=on for the Faroudja chip, this causes the color flicker problem. The older DVD-1600 doesn't have that problem since it was setup correctly.
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Old 11-10-2003, 11:16 PM   #3 of 21
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Thanks! I ended up taking the 910 back and picked up a 2200. I also found the info, the 2200 does use the Sil504.

I would have gone for a 1600 because it has the fli2200 deinterlacer, rated higher than the Sil504, but it has no coaxial digital out.

Anyway, the 2200 looks great so far.



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Old 11-11-2003, 12:26 AM   #4 of 21
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The Silicon Image de-interlacer is great too, for film-mode movies on DVD its actually slightly better quality than the Faroudja. The Faroudja is slightly better for video-mode. But both are top-rated chips.
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Old 11-11-2003, 11:17 AM   #5 of 21
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The Faroudja had great color, but the clarity of film based material with the Si does seem to be smoother. I got it calibrated last night, and I'm pretty happy with it.
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Old 12-23-2003, 08:16 AM   #6 of 21
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According to HTHIFI, ccs is off on the 910.

As for the jitter, my player shows no signs of this.

2200 = chroma bug
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Old 12-23-2003, 08:23 AM   #7 of 21
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This 910 may have been a defective unit, or changes were made to subsequent shipped units, but mine was bad.

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2200 = chroma bug

SiI504 = second best DCDi tested after fli2200 Faroudja in the '02-'03 shootout.



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Old 12-23-2003, 03:05 PM   #8 of 21
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Hey - what were you using as your old player John? That Sony?
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Old 12-23-2003, 07:50 PM   #9 of 21
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I have had no problems with my 910 (knocks on wood).
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Old 12-23-2003, 09:12 PM   #10 of 21
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Hey - what were you using as your old player John? That Sony?

Yep, S560D. Still going strong, now in another room.

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I have had no problems with my 910 (knocks on wood).

Congrats



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