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Old 04-07-2003, 06:00 PM   #1 of 27
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TiVo or Replay TV?


I can't decide on which one to purchase and need your thoughts on this. Here is my reasoning:

-Sonic Blue has claimed bankruptcy
-Replay TV has optical out, component with 480P, ethernet port and many other nice features.
-TiVO looks like more stable company and may bid on pruchasing Replay TV.
-Sony TiVo box can archive to Sony VCR, but has no ethernet port. However I hear it can work with USB to Ethernet adapter. (note: I have ethernet to HT).
-I hear that Replay TV has slow channel-changing problem.

Please help me! I won't know the outcome of Replay's bankruptcy until the 15th of this month. I really like the Sony Tivo, but it doesn't have noted features above....
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Old 04-07-2003, 08:47 PM   #2 of 27
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I use both TiVo and ReplayTV almost daily. I have a DirecTV TiVo for DirecTV channels and a ReplayTV for local OTA channels. Now would be a good time to wait to see if ReplayTV continues in business before deciding what to do. If a financially stable company buys and continues ReplayTV, then you will have to decide which you like better. I prefer the TiVo software and the way it handles recording and conflicts but if you are interested in networking and internet downloads, the pricing will favor ReplayTV since those functions cost considerably more with TiVo.

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Old 04-08-2003, 03:13 PM   #3 of 27
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A lot of the features on Replay TV are of dubious value, seem to be there so marketing can list additional bullet points, like the optical out and component video out. The digital audio out doesn't do much good since it doesn't have digital audio in. It can't record Dolby Digital, so all it really saves is maybe one D->A->D conversion with receivers that redigitize analog input, difference likely inaudible. Analogous problem with component video, no component sources to record from, so what's the point? Reportedly the 480p is only for the menus at this time, and even if they get 480p out for the programs, all that does is use the doubler in the box rather than in the TV, often no improvement or actually worse.

The main additional features of the Replay that are really worth something are the easy show archiving to PC (if you are in to that sort of thing, I'm not), the ethernet port saving you from having to get a USB->ethernet dongle, and the auto commercial advance.

Tivo has fewer of these ancillary features, but it handles the core PVR functions better IMO. Does fewer things (or charges extra for them, the just released "Home Media Option" package), but tends to do them better.
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Old 04-08-2003, 03:21 PM   #4 of 27
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DirecTiVO = 2 tuners = record two things at once.....!
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Old 04-08-2003, 08:20 PM   #5 of 27
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Thanks Guys! This is exactly the kind of feedback I am looking for! Please keep them coming......
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Old 04-08-2003, 10:18 PM   #6 of 27
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I have been very happy with my Tivo. I heard they were releasing a HD machine.
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Old 04-08-2003, 10:30 PM   #7 of 27
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Depends on what you want to use it for.

Back in '84 when I had a choice between a non-GUI PC or a Mac, I chose the PC for flexibility, while many chose the Mac. When I had a choice between the Replay and the TiVo, I chose the Replay for the same reasons.

If you really care about easily archiving shows to your PC hard drive or DVD/VCD/SVCD, the Replay is the only choice. If you think you'll be interested in that, you might want to wait for the 15th to see what's going to happen with the Replay, because TiVo doesn't have the mindset to get you there.

If all you want to do is time-shift until you've viewed (as opposed to permanent archiving), jump on the TiVo.

Cheers,

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[edit] BTW, I feed my HD receiver's 480i output into the Replay, and get near-DVD quality widescreen time-shifted playback. You can't get the same quality with TiVo.
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:24 AM   #8 of 27
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I haven't looked carefully at TIVO since I made my purchase quite a while back, so maybe things have changed.

But at that time, I went with Replay, because I wanted to pick what to record. I set it up to search for movies by title that I'm interested in.

I think TIVO could also do that, but it's main functionality (at that time anyway) seemed to be that it would select shows to record for you that it thought you'd like based on your viewing practices, which never appealed to me at all.



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Old 04-09-2003, 06:47 AM   #9 of 27
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TIVO has always allowed the user to choose programs to record. Additionally, it will record programs on its own that may match the users preferences. With hacks available that allow you to go over 100 hours on a single TIVO it's no big deal to delete shows you didn't request. I'm not sure where the information came from that a user can't choose their material. This could not be further from the truth.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:15 PM   #10 of 27
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BTW, I feed my HD receiver's 480i output into the Replay, and get near-DVD quality widescreen time-shifted playback. You can't get the same quality with TiVo
One can also do this on Tivo. I disagree that you can't get the same quality.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:25 PM   #11 of 27
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I haven't looked carefully at TIVO since I made my purchase quite a while back, so maybe things have changed.
No, they didn't change, they were just never as you perceived.