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Old 08-04-2007, 06:47 AM   #1 of 48
Ronald Epstein
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I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies




Yesterday I bought one of the new Apple Airport Extreme routers that
are ungodly expensive (like everything else Apple sells).

Did I need a new router? No, not really. To date I was using a Belkin
Pre-N wireless router that was quite powerful and actually did a really
good job of covering my entire home -- even providing adequate signal
strength to my back deck for those times I wanted to sit in the sun and
surf the Internet.

So why did I buy this Apple router? Well, a few co-workers bought one
and were gushing over the fact that they found it to be a lot faster than
the routers they had previously owned. They also bragged about the fact
that a printer or external drive could be plugged into the router's USB
port and be made available to every single computer on the network.

I think it was the capability of having an external drive hooked to
the router that could be accessed from my wired desktop and wireless
laptop that pushed me over the edge.

Setting up the router was fairly easy, which surprised me because
routers generally are the most tedious of computer peripherals to
try and set up. Instead of using a webpage to set up the router (as
is the case with most), Apple uses a setup assistant that is software
installed and embedded in the Utilities folder.

I had some initial problems setting up the router due to my own
ignorance. I placed a call to Verizon Fios who told me that
the Apple router would not work with their service because the IP
address is meant to communicate with their routers, and when it does
not, the address is not renewed. Had I listened to that "bull" the
router would be on its way back to Apple. However, I was determined
to get this router working and simply set it up the way I did my
Belkin and it WORKED!

I was also able to easily add my Airport Express module that operates
my wireless printer to the network.

So, I am certain you guys are wondering if $179 buys you a
better router or not. Well, my initial findings is that the Apple
router gave me the same coverage as my Belkin Pre-N modem.
Signal strength was just as strong across my home. What I did
notice, however, was increased speed. Web page loads were
noticeably faster with the Apple router. It was if my system
suddenly got a nice kick in the pants.

I should stop here and say that I am using the "N" standard
across the board. I downloaded the software update for my
Mac Pro weeks ago to make it fully "N" compliant.

I then hooked up an external hard drive to the router using the
USB connection. You need to tell the Apple router whether you
wish to share this drive across the network. I told it to do so.
Like a charm, the hard drive appeared as an icon on my wireless
laptop and wired desktop.

The only problem I have with accessing that hard drive wirelessly
is that the connection is not very fast. I tried to access the drive
from my laptop and play some stored videos. My laptop had a
hard time playing those videos as the connection was obviously not
fast enough. So, it seems that while you can probably access and
transfer small files easily over the network, the connection absolutely
is too slow to even stream video content off of the hard drive.

All in all, I'm happy with the Apple Airport Extreme router for its
improved web browsing speed and ample signal strength within a
very large home. It's extremely easy to set up. The only minor
disappointment I have is over the rather sluggish remote access to
the external hard drive. I suppose this is to be expected, though I
would think the simple art of "streaming" videos off of it would have
worked much better.

Overall, a great router but extremely overpriced. Most people with
small homes/apartments/townhouses would fare just as well with a
$90-$100 Belkin or Linksys.





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Old 08-04-2007, 08:58 AM   #2 of 48
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Re: I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies


Glad to hear you like it, Ron. I bought one with my MBP and I love it! With a $6 four-port USB hub, and I've got a networked photo printer and network hard-drive!

Friends have come over and connected to the network easily. It's trivial to change from 5GHZ 802.11n to 2.4 GHz 802.11g for them, and then back when they leave.

I had some troubles getting it setup initially, but a bit of experience-based intuition plus reading between the lines of the skimpy instructions got me going.

A few caveats
1) While you can network a multi-function printer with it, features like scanning or memory card access cannot be accessed through the AX. This seems to be a limitation of the technology in general and not printer specific.
2) External hard-drive access requires OS X 10.4. My wife's 10.3 machine can't use the drive.
3) It only has 10/100 Mb/s ethernet connections Personally, I think it should have 1 Gb/s to match current Macs.

For me, this is a killer device and I highly recommend the AX for home users!

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Old 08-04-2007, 09:09 AM   #3 of 48
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Re: I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies


The Airport Express isn't that expensive if you compare it to similar routers that have the external drive connection. I have one as well and its been soild and easy to use...like most apple products
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:05 AM   #4 of 48
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Re: I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies


Dave,

This brings up a very good question. Every single review of the
Apple Extreme I have read hits sorely upon the fact that the router
lacks 10/100 Mb/s ethernet connections.

My primitive knowledge of these connections gives me a lack of
understanding as to how this affects anything.

Does the downgraded connection affect hardwired Internet speed,
wireless Internet speed or transfer speed with a wired device?

Can you give me an idea of why this sort of inferior connection
is a problem? Thanks!





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Old 08-04-2007, 12:29 PM   #5 of 48
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Re: I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies


Ron, do you have any non draft-N wireless devices connected? If so, how does that affect overall speed?

I have an older G wireless router, and I want to upgrade it and obviously am looking at this, but I heard that if you have non draft-N devices it will slow down the overall wireless speed. There are two laptops in the apartment who are not draft-N, while my MBP is.

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Old 08-04-2007, 12:40 PM   #6 of 48
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Re: I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies


I only have one laptop (Macbook Pro) which is N compliant.

Are you saying if someone comes in my home with a G compliant
laptop it will slow down the network?





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Old 08-04-2007, 12:48 PM   #7 of 48
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Re: I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies


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Does the downgraded connection affect hardwired Internet speed,
wireless Internet speed or transfer speed with a wired device?

The only time you'd see a reduction in speed is if you networked two or more machines with Gigabit or faster Ethernet installed. There's no residential Internet service that I'm aware of that is going to provide speeds of 100Mb.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:35 PM   #8 of 48
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Re: I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies


Lacking Gb ethernet speed, currently, only affects wired LAN speed, and not wireless nor broadband 'net access as those are much slower.

It matters to me for the occaisional computer to computer copy of large (>10 GB) files. I also think it would speed copies to my external hard-drive, but I'm uncertain. It's a non-issue for most people, and I don't even know other routers in this class have Gb speed. But I'd like to have it.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:39 PM   #9 of 48
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Re: I bought one of dem new Apple router thingies


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I only have one laptop (Macbook Pro) which is N compliant.

Are you saying if someone comes in my home with a G compliant
laptop it will slow down the network?
The reviews I've read state that it drops to the slowest connection speed. If someone uses G on your network, it will drop to G for all connections.
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