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Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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Reason: to fix Wikipedia link
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05-06-2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
I heard on NPR that the original recording of Herbert Morrison has been habitually played back at the wrong speed. Of course, NPR's pitched correction is diminished by the streaming audio.
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05-06-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
Five years later (65 years ago) in the Battle of the Coral Sea.
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05-06-2007, 06:58 PM
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Re: Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
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a mode of transportation so far removed from today's travel schemes...that it seems odd that it occurred so relatively recently.
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Yeah, the dirigible popularity started in the early 1900's.
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05-06-2007, 07:57 PM
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Re: Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
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I heard on NPR that the original recording of Herbert Morrison has been habitually played back at the wrong speed. Of course, NPR's pitched correction is diminished by the streaming audio.
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I heard this radio article. The difference is noticeable but not radical. Both versions still have that visceral impact. The emotion in the voice is there in both.
Dennis, is there a reason you're mentioning the Battle of the Coral Sea in this thread? I'm not getting the relationship.
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05-06-2007, 07:59 PM
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Re: Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
Thanks for the photos Mike. This incident is often touted as one of the biggest passenger air-flight disasters. Though the Hindenburg disaster was quite spectacular, not many people seem to know that every passenger who stayed aboard (i.e., didn't jump) actually survived the dirigible's demise.
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05-06-2007, 08:29 PM
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Re: Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
The date, 7 may.
Anyway, one may recall that the Hindenburg disaster represents the only fatalities among paying passengers in the history of rigid airship operations (about half of those killed were passengers, the remainder being crew — Zeppelins always had large crews, but a double crew was being flown that time due to low bookings and training for the upcoming launch of the LZ 130 Graf Zeppelin II).
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05-06-2007, 10:16 PM
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Re: Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
We now know that the Hindenburg disaster could have been avoided even if they used hydrogen as the lifting gas.
The combination of improper grounding design (they used steel hooks for anchoring the canvas covers, which transmitted static electricity very easily) and the doping compound being made from nitrocellulose and aluminum powder (essentially they coated the canvas cover in solid rocket fuel!  ) made the disaster worst than it should be. (We know know that the Zeppelin company did a secret report on the tragedy and they did find that the canvas doping compound was extremely flammable.) That's why on the Graf Zeppelin II they switched to bronze alloy hooks to anchor the canva covers and changed the canvas doping compound.
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05-06-2007, 10:29 PM
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Re: Hindenburg Disaster: 70 years ago
Actually, the cover isn't all that flammable — I have been in touch with the fellows who conclusively disproved the Addison Bain "rocket fuel" theory, and I can provide contact info if necessary. It burns surprisingly slowly, considering that every component is either flammable or an oxidiser, which has to do with the chemical kinetics of solid-state reactions.
The cover doping, however, very definitely contributed to the hydrogen ignition. Not only was the formula changed for the LZ 130, but the lacing cords holding the cover to the frame were impregnated with graphite to bleed off the charge gradually and prevent sparks.
Without the hydrogen ignition, in other words, not much would have happened. Previous experience (with ships hit by lightning, &c.) suggests that holes would have been charred in the cover, and they might have been stuck for several days until repairs could be effected, but that's all.
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