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Old 06-26-2005, 08:12 AM   #1 of 101
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Texas hold 'em question


I'm a poker player from way back, but I'm new to hold 'em.

My question relates to "all-in".

Say Player A has $100 in chips, Player B has $50, and Player C has $10.

Now, the last card has been turned. The bet is to C. He goes all-in.

Does this mean that A has to put in just $10? And B $10? What if A or B raise at this point, knowing that C is out of chips?

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Old 06-26-2005, 09:00 AM   #2 of 101
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FWIW from a pretty bad poker player:

It only takes $10 to call "C".

One of the others might raise if they think they have best hand and want to maximize their winnings, or if they think they can beat "C" and want to bluff the other remaining player.

Either "A" or "B" could raise the bet to $40 (stakes permitting) for instance, and the other could call. Of course "A" could force "B" to move all-in in order to call, but "B" can only make "A" call a maximum of $50. His bluff could still work, because there's no way "A" wants to double up "B" and wind up in last chip position.

If "C" and "B" move all in and "A" calls, there will be a main pot of $30 ("C"s stack plus 2 calls) and side pot of $80. "C" can only win the main pot.

Now, according to PartyPoker (et al.)"house" rules, if both "B" and "C" go all-out, losing to "A", then "B" takes 2nd place on the strength of his chip position prior to the hand regardless of his hand's rank compared to "C".

Hope this helps.



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Old 06-26-2005, 09:03 AM   #3 of 101
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If A and B want to stay in, they can call C's $10, but they can also have a side pot between A and B and continue betting against one another, but C is in the pot for $10, and could only win $10 each from both A and B should either stay in for an all-in call by C. The side pot is then just heads-up between A and B, and they could continue to bet until one calls (even if one of them goes all-in, to have any chance of winning the side pot, the other has to call the side bet, else forfeit the side pot).



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Old 06-26-2005, 09:07 AM   #4 of 101
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As Pat said, there's also a side pot in the case of the $40 example above.



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Old 06-26-2005, 12:51 PM   #5 of 101
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all right...

Just two players, A with $100, B with $10.

It's A's bet; does the fact that B has just $10 mean that that's all A can bet ($10)? Player A cannot bet $11 and effectively buy the pot?

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Old 06-26-2005, 01:27 PM   #6 of 101
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Jon,

It depends on the game, but in a tournament setting, no you can't just buy a pot. If that were the case, as soon as one hand was played, there would be a chip leader, and he'd just bet everything he had, and since no one could match him, he'd win the tourney after just playing one hand.



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Old 06-26-2005, 05:13 PM   #7 of 101
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Just two players, A with $100, B with $10.


I've been assuming we're talking about no limit Hold 'em.

"A" can bet whatever he wants, up to $100 (though anything more than his opponent's stack is superfluous or for effect) To call, "B" can only move all-in and will double up if he wins. Otherwise he's all-out and the game is over.


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Old 06-26-2005, 10:17 PM   #8 of 101
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OK, thanks...I think I'm ready to take on Chris Moneymaker now.

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Old 06-27-2005, 08:34 AM   #9 of 101
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Good luck on that one Jon. The best way to learn how to play Hold 'em is to do it online. Almost all of the sites have a free section so you can play with out takeing out a second morgage. That way you will learn the rules. Depending on the table, it may not be too real. i.e. someone going all in on a 7-2 off suite. The worst starting hand in Hold 'em.



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Old 06-27-2005, 02:17 PM   #10 of 101
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The best way to learn how to play Hold 'em is to do it online.
As long as you realize that playing with play money is a totally different game compared to when there is real money on the table. Same rules but people play very different.
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