I read the clearview thread, who is Orwell?

John*C · 05-19-2004, 10:19 AM

In the DVD "Hackers"1995 Cerial Killer said at the table of the male hackers, Orwells here we are living large, we have no names; we are nameless. To keep this an on topic to DVD I referenced my files on "Hackers" to get the exact words spoken by charactor/hacker Cerial Killer.

I know who Jack Foley was and what was named after him, but I have no reference to a Orwell or first name to look it up; after all I am curious as newbie to filmagraphy.

Julie K · 05-19-2004, 10:32 AM

I guess nobody reads 1984 in high school anymore?

George Orwell's 1984 describes a totalitarian future. The Clearplay device is not Orwellian because it is a device offered by a private company and is not forced on anyone who doesn't want it.

Chad R · 05-19-2004, 10:33 AM

That's a reference to George Orwell, author of 1984 (to which the reference specifically refers) as well as Animal Farm.

Peter Apruzzese · 05-19-2004, 10:36 AM

It's a reference to the famous author George Orwell, who wrote the novels "1984" and "Animal Farm" and others.

NickSo · 05-19-2004, 12:11 PM

I haven't read 1984... we did Brave New World tho :p)

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Michael St. Clair · 05-19-2004, 12:43 PM

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George Orwell's 1984 describes a totalitarian future. The Clearplay device is not Orwellian because it is a device offered by a private company and is not forced on anyone who doesn't want it.

While I don't like the device, to be clear, I have never called it Orwellian.

I said I found the naming of the device to be Orwellian doublespeak. This tech doesn't 'clear' up anything, it clouds or obscures it.

Obviously more accurate names like 'CensorPlay' or 'EditPlay' or 'FilterPlay' might make some people uncomfortable. Maybe 'CleanPlay' wasn't available?

But 'ClearPlay'? Is the irony lost on the owners or all of their customers? I somehow doubt it.

Julie K · 05-19-2004, 12:56 PM

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I said I found the naming of the device to be Orwellian doublespeak.

I'd agree if this device were being required by a government trying to protect us from "unclear" things.

The name is rather silly, but I just don't think that a name of one product being offered by a private company really can be called Orwellian. It's just a product name. A private company does not have the power to enforce its "doublespeak".

I've called my homeowner's association a bunch of Nazis before, but I really shouldn't. No matter how many stupid CC&Rs they come up with, they really can't compare to a Nazi government. It's the same thing with Clearplay.

Leila Dougan · 05-19-2004, 12:58 PM

Hackers is one of my all-time favorite movies (guilty pleasure). I could quote that movie all day long

Jeff Gatie · 05-19-2004, 01:04 PM

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haven't read 1984... we did Brave New World tho

Brave New World was Aldous Huxley, not Orwell. Great book, lousy mini-series.

Michael St. Clair · 05-19-2004, 01:05 PM

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I'd agree if this device were being required by a government trying to protect us from "unclear" things.

And I'd agree with you if doublespeak were limited to the government, and if we weren't in the era where the lines between corporations and government weren't continually greying.

I'd better stop at this point.