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Old 05-13-2004, 08:16 AM   #1 of 4
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History of the inverted yoke controls in aircraft


I happened upon a post on an MR2 spyder board about the sequential, how it's pull back to upshift and push forward to downshift and how somebody thought it didn't make sense.

I'm pretty sure the WRC folks have this configuration even when they mostly use paddleshifters but I'm wondering if this has similar history to flight controls how pulling back on the yoke with pitch the aircraft up and pushing forward goes down.

I would think that the g-forces in a plane make it a little easier to pull back when going up, applying more throttle, etc will push the pilot back. Somewhat similar but in a lesser scale, the driver, while accelerating seems more intuitive, or perhaps inherited from flight controls, pull back to upshift.

Do you think that the decision for sequentials stems from flight controls or some other kind of user interface research?

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Old 05-13-2004, 04:49 PM   #2 of 4
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No idea.

Remember when the yoke was between the pilots legs on older (WW2?) aircraft? If they did that to cars, do you think it would appeal to the testosterone-affluent crowd?



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Old 05-13-2004, 11:54 PM   #3 of 4
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I happened upon a post on an MR2 spyder board about the sequential, how it's pull back to upshift and push forward to downshift and how somebody thought it didn't make sense.

I dunno, makes sense to me actually, on a regular manual you'd pull straight back to shift from 1 to 2, or from 3 to 4. It's only because of the "H" shape that from 2 to 3 or 3 to 5 seems a push forward, but accompanied with a rightward motion midway.
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pulling back on the yolk corresponds to the reaction of the little airplane on the attitude indicator. Simple as that. Pushing forward to raise the nose makes no sense.

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Remember when the yoke was between the pilots legs on older (WW2?) aircraft? If they did that to cars, do you think it would appeal to the testosterone-affluent crowd?

Plenty of stick airplanes around, look at the flight deck of most airbus, though it's a side mount.
the cub, supercub, aeronca champ, decathlon, citabria, pitts, sukhoi, christen eagle, cirrus, lancair, many many many general aviation stick airplanes still kicking.

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Oh and as far as the manual/auto gate, in a 5 speed which way do you go to upshift? 1-2 3-4 and 5-6 you pull back.
2-1 4-3 6-5 you push forward. Makes sense to me.
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